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[Yankie]

To the greeks and turks on this board;

1. What are the chances of Turkish cypress and Turkey joining EU? Quite unlikely?

2. If they do join, what are the legal implications of all these greeks who might claim so called confiscated property?

Just wondering cuz I'm quite keen to buy property on the turkish side and apparently the place I like used to belong to some greek.

3. So if unification chances are slim, I don't have to worry about property issues?

[Piratis]

If you "buy" the property that is stolen from us, it is a crime committed against us and you have to worry for more than just losing your investment.

Several arrests have been made already, and an NGO is collecting the names and other information of the people that have committed the crimes you are talking about.

There is no such thing as "Turkish cypress", just an illegal occupation of the northern part of Republic of Cyprus.

RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 14 December 1982



The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create an independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need for a solution of the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continuing support for the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-General's statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to pursue his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to cooperate fully with the Secretary-General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all States not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all States and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.

Adopted at the 2500th meeting by 13 votes to 1 against (Pakistan) with 1 abstention (Jordan).

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

[Yankie]

If you "buy" the property that is stolen from us, it is a crime committed against us

Who cares about you. I just want to know the legal aspects and the chances of a supposed reunion.

Several arrests have been made already, and an NGO is collecting the names and other information of the people that have committed the crimes you are talking about.

Sources please, and in what context.

There is no such thing as "Turkish cypress", just an illegal occupation of the northern part of Republic of Cyprus.

In concrete terms, you actually think the Turkish army will hand over that portion?

[elko]

Yankie,
Don't worry about those who shout their heads off.

As long as the property you are talking about is in TRNC, it is none of the business of its previous owner. What does it matter whether it now belongs to a Turkish Cypriot or a "Yankie"? How does it make it better or worse for its previous owner?

The simple answer is that it does not make any difference. then the question: Why do these fanatics oppose such land to be sold to others? The simple answer is that they want the Turkish Cypriots into submission by trying to stop their economy developing. As simple as that.

So have no fear and have no bad conscience about it. If you like the place and the price is right go for it.

Just a final bit of advice: do not visit south Cyprus, you never know what the fanatics will do to you, so just keep clear from these nasty people.
ismet

[Yankie]

Thanks for your reassurance elko. Yes I do like the turkish portion, that's the most beautiful part and so much more peaceful. I'll have to seek professional advice on this matter.

[Piratis]

Your IP has been logged already and we will find out more info about you. Criminals like you will not get away.

Ismet, the nasty people are people like you who want to profit on the loss of our refugees by illegally "selling" our properties.

[Yankie]

LOL, go ahead and do that. I just asked about the legal aspects of acquiring property.

[elko]

Piratis,
Who is nasty, you who is threatining Yankie with

Your IP has been logged already and we will find out more info about you. Criminals like you will not get away.

or me who is giving a good answer with no lies.

Piratis, please answer me a simple question: What difference does it make to is previous owner whether a specific land is now owned by a Turkish Cypriot, a Turk from Turkey or "Yankie"?
A simple question, can we have a simple honest answer.
ismet

[Kikapu]

Turkish cypress ?

Being a "Yankie", I can see where you have confused California Cypress Trees, to "Turkish Cyprus". !!!

[Piratis]

Yankiie is threatening us that he is about to commit a crime against us. I simply informed him what the consequences of his illegal action will be.

Piratis, please answer me a simple question: What difference does it make to is previous owner whether a specific land is now owned by a Turkish Cypriot, a Turk from Turkey or "Yankie"?
A simple question, can we have a simple honest answer.

There are no "previous" owners, but currently illegal occupants of our properties.
The difference you asked for:
1) The TCs are also part of Cyprus, they didn't go to the occupied areas just to exploit our properties, and many of them support an end to the illegalities forced by Turkey. When a solution will be found they will return the properties and take their own back.
2) The settlers are brought en mass here by Turkey. Most of them are uneducated. When a solution is found most of them will return to their country (Turkey)
3) These foreigners are criminals that go to the occupied Cyprus for one and only reason: To exploit the suffering of our refugees and to gain from it. Such people are the scum of earth and there is no excuse for their actions. For this reason they will be punished accordingly.