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[DT.]

If it weren't a full alignment -once again- with the TC distorted view that the so called committee became "legal" out of the blues, then what was it?

Now you are talking Pyrpoliser, but shouldn'd you be asking this question to our President? Now perhaps even you can begin to see where his policies have brought us. I also suggest you get hold of some copies of the minutes of COREPER to read of how Europe talks about us and our President. It is so humiliating that if someone asks you "where do you come from" you would rather say "Turkey" than "Cyprus".

Ahem...speak for youself bananiot.

I can't see what we're arguing here? There was inter-communal strife in the 60's with crimes by both communities....If you ask me the TC's had the upper hand cause we had the Turkish Airforce bombing us as well in the 60's or has everyone forgotten that?

[Bananiot]

Obviously you haven't the faintest of what you are talking about. Difficult to discuss anything with someone that seriously claims that the TC's had the upper hand in the 60's.

[DT.]

I haven't the faintest?? DId you know about the bombardments with the fighter jets or is this one more thing you chose to blank out of your head on your way to calling yourself turkish (which you prefer to anyway)

[mehmet]

DT, do you know how many incidents there were with the Turkish air force? I know of one in 1967. Do you know how many people were killed? Do your maths, then your history and you will know who had the upper hand. Not even Papadop would claim between 1963-74 the Turkish Cypriots had the upper hand.

[DT.]

Well ok then!! If there was only one little incident with a few harmless fighter jets bombing civilian territories then.....lets forget about it.

[DT.]

According to Turkish accounts, not only F-100Cs and F-100Ds of the 111 and 181 Filos participated in these strikes, but also F-84Gs from 161 Filo.

They not only strafed but also dropped napalm.

[mehmet]

Hey hold on there, without a doubt bombs beig dropped are terrifying but don't start turning that one incident into an excuse to justify YOUR claim that Turkish Cypriots had the upper hand in the 1960s.

1) You are equating the Turkish army with Turkish Cypriots
2) You are showing an ignorance of maths AND history

Hell..... I'm more than prepared to take my share of responsibility I just want you do the same.

[miltiades]

The fanatics had the upper hand , the ordinary Cypriots were the victims of actions by such people .
Have to agree with Mehmet however that the majority certainly had the upper hand in the 60s , to suggest otherwise is absurd.

[Kikapu]

According to Turkish accounts, not only F-100Cs and F-100Ds of the 111 and 181 Filos participated in these strikes, but also F-84Gs from 161 Filo.

They not only strafed but also dropped napalm.

DT,

What started in late 1963, by nationalist GC's against minority TC's, did not end overnight. In 1964, Turkey did send Fighter Jets, to destroy some of the GC's defensive/offensive positions. These were fairly "simple" Fighter Jets, but Fighter Jets, nevertheless. On August 8th, 1964, one of the F-100D Jets was shot down, who was piloted by Captain Cengiz Topel. It was reported that he had parachuted from his crippled Jet, by others flying with him. After 4 days, the whole Nation of Turkey waiting for answers as to what happened to him, it was reported by GC's, that he had died, on crash landing his crippled plane.

After his body was returned to Turkey, Captain Topel's body was examined by the Turks as well as Doctors, Dr. Major Peter Kristensen and Dr. Finn H. Soensen, both from UNFICY, and the determination was, that the pilot was tortured to death, by burning him alive. When this news broke out in Turkey, the whole Nation cried that day. I know, because I had just arrived from Cyprus and was living in Ankara at this time, at age 9.

I believe, there were a lot of vengeance and revenge killings took place by the Turks against the GC's, when they invaded in 1974. I don't know for certainty, but my gut feeling today tells me, that was to avenge the killing of Captain Topel.

[Pyrpolizer]

Bananiot I don’t know if you noticed but I was the first one in this forum after last weeks fiasco at the EU to admit the so called EU orientated policy of Papadopoulos is leading us nowhere. Imo not only we don’t have the so called 75 Eu vetos, we will be lucky if we are ever allowed to excercise just one of them.
I predicted Papadopoulos is from last week on, politically dead. I am expecting him to be patriot enough to negotiate with all good will, and as much as it depends on him, help find out a solution during the next push scheduled for January. The time needed for him to burry the Anan Plan is over. We gave him a 76% strong no, if he was unable to utilise it, that’s his problem not ours.

This doesn’t mean I agree with all the nensense you are saying, in fact I never agreed with your reasoning regarding Papadopoulos. Your reasoning against him, is the same falacious reasoning, that says the GCs who voted no, did so for the same reasons as those of Denktash.

Here, you dragged me into meaningless and pointless discussions with you. I admit you do have this ability I mean you once drag Piratis, then me, then Kifeas, then DT and so on. . Do not expect a continuation from me. Do some productive work in this forum like for example clearing up some of the myths the TCs are living with, and base their expectations upon.