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The collapse of the illusions

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Postby zan » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:31 am

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Bananiot wrote:Piratis, try again. Who were the warlords in 1963 that went on a murder spree? Who were these people that paved the way for Turkey to invade? In case you dare not think, the tarmac for the invasion was laid in 1963, but I am eagerly waiting for you to name a few of the traitors.


Some and GCs and some TCs. And that "murder spree" you talk about was nothing compared to mass murders we have witnessed both before and after in Cyprus. (a few 100s of victims over a period of 5 years VS 1000s of victims within days that we had in several other occasions). The events of 1963 were mostly over by 1968. So they had nothing to do with what happened in 1974. Just you remembered them now to excuse yet more crimes that happen as we speak.

About "naming traitors", I did already. You didn't see the names in one of my previous posts?



So the coup came from thin air did it? Yes the crimes that are happening is that your president is discriminating against a third of the Cypriot people by only working for the benifit of the GCs. And your crime is you are supporting him.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:43 am

So the coup came from thin air did it?


The coup came from the coupists that wanted to overthrown the democratically elected president and take the power, like they have done in Greece a few years earlier. Many coups happened in Turkey as well. How was the coup related to the intercommunal conflict of 63-68.

Yes the crimes that are happening is that your president is discriminating against a third of the Cypriot people by only working for the benifit of the GCs.


The crime that is happening now is that illegal occupation of 1/3rd of Cyprus by Turkey.

How is our president disseminating against a third of the Cyprus people?
Who is this "third" you refer to anyways? TCs are less than a 5th, GCs are 4/5ths.
The president of Republic of Cyprus is doing what he has to do to protect Republic of Cyprus and its citizens.
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Postby zan » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:51 am

Piratis wrote:
So the coup came from thin air did it?


The coup came from the coupists that wanted to overthrown the democratically elected president and take the power, like they have done in Greece a few years earlier. Many coups happened in Turkey as well. How was the coup related to the intercommunal conflict of 63-68.

Yes the crimes that are happening is that your president is discriminating against a third of the Cypriot people by only working for the benifit of the GCs.


The crime that is happening now is that illegal occupation of 1/3rd of Cyprus by Turkey.

How is our president disseminating against a third of the Cyprus people?
Who is this "third" you refer to anyways? TCs are less than a 5th, GCs are 4/5ths.
The president of Republic of Cyprus is doing what he has to do to protect Republic of Cyprus and its citizens.



I thought you might be more interested in the numbers game than you are on bare facts :lol: Makarios did what he had to do to protect the citizens of the RoC but only the GCs. It seems that no matter what time frame we work in it is always the same.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:07 am

Based on the results (some 100s of dead from both sides during the intercommunal conflict) I can't see how one group was more protected than the other.

However there was a significant flaw with the 1960 agreements (one of many) since the president was elected exclusively from GCs and the vice president exclusively from TCs. Based on that system we couldn't expect much better. That was obviously undemocratic parameter. All Cypriots should be able to elect and be elected as president without any kind of discrimination. Unfortunately such flaws were not coincidentally introduced by those that wrote those agreements. Divide and rule didn't end in 1960.
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Postby zan » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:16 am

Piratis
I don't know if you have just read Muratagas' post but I will not be posting here untill monday because I can't.
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:10 am

Bananiot wrote:Piratis, try again. Who were the warlords in 1963 that went on a murder spree? Who were these people that paved the way for Turkey to invade? In case you dare not think, the tarmac for the invasion was laid in 1963, but I am eagerly waiting for you to name a few of the traitors.


Pyrpolizer wrote:Go to hell re malaka, defeatist ,mazochist. We are not mazochists like you.


Do not waste your time with Bananiot. His name is already engraved on a marble plate next to Ataturk’s mausoleum in Ankara, dedicated to the “Rayias” that have offered their free services to the pan-Turanist cause and helped the Turkish propaganda in its efforts to Turkify 40% of Cyprus. Him, Lukas Charalampous, Nikos Rolandis and some few others are all proud members of the above club.
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Postby Bananiot » Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:38 am

Pyrpolyser, stop your moronic outbursts. I would be more than happy to meet you face to face for an exhaustive discussion or anything else you might desire. Name the place and time.

Piratis, I understand your difficulty. The truth would rock to the groung everything you have built with your imagination. I know you have named Sampson as a culprit for the 1963 events but as you know, one swallow will not bring spring. He had collaborators and fellow war lords. Who were they? Would you like to tell us? Who funded them and was it okay to murder women and kids, as long as their numbers did not exceed a certain standard you seem to have in your head?

Kifeas, I hear you have applied to the "court". Is that so?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:40 pm

Bananas I told you before:
If I ever meet you I will not even say good morning to you.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:45 pm

It is not the things you see that matter, it is the things you chose to ignore on purpose.
And what was this question to Kifeas all about? If it weren't a full alignment -once again- with the TC distorted view that the so called committee became "legal" out of the blues, then what was it?
Tell me Bananas
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Postby Bananiot » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:55 pm

If it weren't a full alignment -once again- with the TC distorted view that the so called committee became "legal" out of the blues, then what was it?


Now you are talking Pyrpoliser, but shouldn'd you be asking this question to our President? Now perhaps even you can begin to see where his policies have brought us. I also suggest you get hold of some copies of the minutes of COREPER to read of how Europe talks about us and our President. It is so humiliating that if someone asks you "where do you come from" you would rather say "Turkey" than "Cyprus".
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