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[Pyrpolizer]

Murataga in case you forgot what was agreed almost 30 years back under different conditions was bi-zonal, bi-communal Federation. This means 2 parts (not 50 as per USA), each part administered by one of the communities, and Federal. When this was agreed there were no settlers and you did not sell the most valuable of our properties to foreigners. During the years Denktash insisted on this stange term of Political equality which strictly translated means 50-50 thus killing the Federal concept and introducing the concept of confederation. NONE of these is accepted. In fact we do not accept anything less than a standard federation with no strict bi-zonality and no strict bi-communality. this is the price you have to pay for importing settlers, changing the demographics of the island, and selling our properties without having the equivalent to exchange.

And the price you paid for trying to change the constitution without proper legal consent and then trying to wipe us off the face of the earth was RoC=63%. TRNC=37%. There seems to be a price for everything. The Greek currency of blood letting is not the only currency in the world.

And that's why you are paying because of that 37% in 2 currencies: Cyprus Pounds and Turkish Lira. It seems at this stage we both pay, do you think we should continue?

[Pyrpolizer]

I hope the leaders of our communities soon agree on the only existing comprehensive solution to the Cyprus problem which stands on the principals of bi-communality, political equality and bi-zonality.

There cannot be political equality even in a Federal system when one the two parties is almost 3 times the other, will be contributing (at least during the first 10 years) 90% to the economy etc etc. This concept of political equality between unequal things was introduced by Denktash without ever been agreed or accepted to lead to a confederation. We don’t need confederation, we don’t need to join with another country to lower our expenses in representing ourselves to the outside world.

I believe that instead of your leaders explaining you the obvious they keep on adding new dreams to you.

[Pyrpolizer]

When did you talk against TMT, the Turkish invasion, the illegal "trnc"? Your purpose here is just to blame GCs to help our enemies achieve their aims against us.

So will you ever stop talking with him? Don’t you see what he is doing? Let him post his usual monologues and speak with himself. All he is doing is just aligning himself all the time with the TCs to receive bravos. Let him cummulate a 1000 bravos if he that makes him feel better, why do you give him leverage?

[Viewpoint]

Bananiot as usual tries to blame it all on the Greek Cypriots.
The intercommunal conflict was the fault of both sides. Bananiot forgot to mention that TCs have been always planing for partition and that they tried to make the government collapse. He forgot to mention about the TMT that killed 100s of innocent GCs, he forgot to mention the Turkish air strikes in 64 with napalm bombs.

He also forgot to mention that the intercommunal conflict was mostly between 63 and 68. 1974 was 6 years later and it had nothing to do with it. The excuse for the invasion was the coup, not the intercommunal conflict that ended long time before. However the Turks later on remembered everything in order to excuse their invasion. Good that they didn't blame us for the Greek revolution of 1821 and give that as an excuse as well.

So from 1968 to 1974 everything was rosy? me thinks not, 1974 was a build up and ultimate explosion. You are like a big kid, you picked a fight thinking that you could kick the shit out of a smaller kid, just when you were about to strangle him to death his big brother turns up and smashes your face in, throwing you out of the school playground.

Who's to blame??

[Pyrpolizer]

This is your interpretation. The fact is until 1962 the GCs were armless. It is your side who was preparing for taksim through invasion. It is your side who started the killings and slaughtering from as early as 1958. (Kontemenos slaughter). Then yes you were beaten more than what you beated us, but not because we were worse than you, just because we were more.

Your efforts for taksim were preplanned and were put in action immediately after the 1960. The GCs kept their Enosis dream but did nothing until 1962 when they discovered your massive armament building up.

The waiting of Turkish ships to come was always your dream and don't deny it.

[Piratis]

Is everything rosy in Turkey now? Does it mean that a foreign country is allowed to invade another because some think that "everything is not rosy"?

During the intercommunal conflict you did as much to us as we did to you. If you consider what we did to you as "struggling" you, then what you did to us was exactly the same.

After 68 the intercommunal conflict was mostly over. Maybe things were not "Rosy" but in Cyprus things were never "rosy" and most of the time you were to blame for this. So what gives you the right to perform ethnic cleansing against us? Absolutely nothing. This is why the occupation of Cyprus is illegal, and the state you declared a pseudo state.

[Bananiot]

Piratis, try again. Who were the warlords in 1963 that went on a murder spree? Who were these people that paved the way for Turkey to invade? In case you dare not think, the tarmac for the invasion was laid in 1963, but I am eagerly waiting for you to name a few of the traitors.

[Pyrpolizer]

Go to hell re malaka, defeatist ,mazochist. We are not mazochists like you.

[Kikapu]

Go to hell re malaka, defeatist ,mazochist. We are not mazochists like you.

Calm down my friend, otherwise I will tell the "if she dies, she dies " joke again.

[Piratis]

Piratis, try again. Who were the warlords in 1963 that went on a murder spree? Who were these people that paved the way for Turkey to invade? In case you dare not think, the tarmac for the invasion was laid in 1963, but I am eagerly waiting for you to name a few of the traitors.

Some and GCs and some TCs. And that "murder spree" you talk about was nothing compared to mass murders we have witnessed both before and after in Cyprus. (a few 100s of victims over a period of 5 years VS 1000s of victims within days that we had in several other occasions). The events of 1963 were mostly over by 1968. So they had nothing to do with what happened in 1974. Just you remembered them now to excuse yet more crimes that happen as we speak.

About "naming traitors", I did already. You didn't see the names in one of my previous posts?