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[Kikapu]

You strongly believe that had nothing happened between TC's and GC's Turkey would have not even attempted to grab at least a base for its own interests.

DT,

In all honesty, since the British had their bases already, I would not have cared too much, if Greece and Turkey had their bases also, since all three were the acting Guarantors to the Cyprus Constitution, which Makarios accepted, if it meant we would not have had any wars on the island. In fact, we would have benefited a great deal economically, from all the jobs it would have created, to service those bases. Then each foreign base on the island, could have kept an eye on, on the other one much closely, to avert any ill conceived ideas, like Enosis or a Partition.

[Piratis]

Bananiot as usual tries to blame it all on the Greek Cypriots.
The intercommunal conflict was the fault of both sides. Bananiot forgot to mention that TCs have been always planing for partition and that they tried to make the government collapse. He forgot to mention about the TMT that killed 100s of innocent GCs, he forgot to mention the Turkish air strikes in 64 with napalm bombs.

He also forgot to mention that the intercommunal conflict was mostly between 63 and 68. 1974 was 6 years later and it had nothing to do with it. The excuse for the invasion was the coup, not the intercommunal conflict that ended long time before. However the Turks later on remembered everything in order to excuse their invasion. Good that they didn't blame us for the Greek revolution of 1821 and give that as an excuse as well.

[DT.]

You strongly believe that had nothing happened between TC's and GC's Turkey would have not even attempted to grab at least a base for its own interests.

DT,

In all honesty, since the British had their bases already, I would not have cared too much, if Greece and Turkey had their bases also, since all three were the acting Guarantors to the Cyprus Constitution, which Makarios accepted, if it meant we would not have had any wars on the island. In fact, we would have benefited a great deal economically, from all the jobs it would have created, to service those bases. Then each foreign base on the island, could have kept an eye on, on the other one much closely, to avert any ill conceived ideas, like Enosis or a Partition.

Kikapu, if we had inter-communal peace, would you accept a turkish base? I wouldn't accept a Greek one and would protest strongly against it. Why should we?

[Kikapu]

You strongly believe that had nothing happened between TC's and GC's Turkey would have not even attempted to grab at least a base for its own interests.

DT,

In all honesty, since the British had their bases already, I would not have cared too much, if Greece and Turkey had their bases also, since all three were the acting Guarantors to the Cyprus Constitution, which Makarios accepted, if it meant we would not have had any wars on the island. In fact, we would have benefited a great deal economically, from all the jobs it would have created, to service those bases. Then each foreign base on the island, could have kept an eye on, on the other one much closely, to avert any ill conceived ideas, like Enosis or a Partition.

Kikapu, if we had inter-communal peace, would you accept a turkish base? I wouldn't accept a Greek one and would protest strongly against it. Why should we?

For all the reasons I mentioned above. Don't forget, we also had peace from 1960 until 1963. How long did that one last ?

Unfortunately, we, the TC's and GC's could not be trusted to take care of our own affairs back in 1960, so we were assigned three Nannies "Guarantors" to look after us, which we said yes to it. I'm not so sure, those "Nannies" would like to leave us alone anymore, so might as well, learn to live with them, as long as they stay on their bases, and keep the noise down at night time, by not revving the engines on the Fighter Jets too high, so that we can get a decent sleep. Hopefully, after a long proven track record, that we can show the world, that we can live together and make Cyprus a country for all Cypriots, we can demand, that all bases to close.

[DT.]

You strongly believe that had nothing happened between TC's and GC's Turkey would have not even attempted to grab at least a base for its own interests.

DT,

In all honesty, since the British had their bases already, I would not have cared too much, if Greece and Turkey had their bases also, since all three were the acting Guarantors to the Cyprus Constitution, which Makarios accepted, if it meant we would not have had any wars on the island. In fact, we would have benefited a great deal economically, from all the jobs it would have created, to service those bases. Then each foreign base on the island, could have kept an eye on, on the other one much closely, to avert any ill conceived ideas, like Enosis or a Partition.

Kikapu, if we had inter-communal peace, would you accept a turkish base? I wouldn't accept a Greek one and would protest strongly against it. Why should we?

For all the reasons I mentioned above. Don't forget, we also had peace from 1960 until 1963. How long did that one last ?

Unfortunately, we, the TC's and GC's could not be trusted to take care of our own affairs back in 1960, so we were assigned three Nannies "Guarantors" to look after us, which we said yes to it. I'm not so sure, those "Nannies" would like to leave us alone anymore, so might as well, learn to live with them, as long as they stay on their bases, and keep the noise down at night time, by not revving the engines on the Fighter Jets too high, so that we can get a decent sleep. Hopefully, after a long proven track record, that we can show the world, that we can live together and make Cyprus a country for all Cypriots, we can demand, that all bases to close.

He he, well said.

[Bananiot]

Piratis, are you now insinuating that I support the TMT? And, since you are so crossed with the TMT (and you should be) are you prepared to do your country a real service for a change and NAME the corresponding culprits from our side? Are you excusing the murderous war lords of our side? Who were they? Come on, lets hear their name. Loud and clear, without buts and may be's.

[Piratis]

Bananiot, I have talked many times about EOKA-B and people like Samson, Gricas, Karras and many others that after 74 found refugee in DISY. Samson, was jailed and if you ask me those others should be as well. Unfortunately DISY protected them, and when they got the power they even rewarded them.

At the same time TCs had the TMT terrorist organization, with people like Denktash in it, and they have committed analogous crimes against GCs.

As you can see I tell the whole truth, without trying to hide the crimes of any side. On the other hand, you are trying to put the blame on GCs exclusively in order to excuse the criminal Turkish invasion. When did you talk against TMT, the Turkish invasion, the illegal "trnc"? Your purpose here is just to blame GCs to help our enemies achieve their aims against us.

[Pyrpolizer]

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[Pyrpolizer]

I wouldn't expect anything more from you, remember what you told me a few months ago?

In fact here WE ARE PAYING because of you. Understand what I mean?

You are obviously not the most objective person to judge Greek politics and politicians

Ooooh so you are the one who I told that. Never really remember to who. I see you are keeping notes, bravo.
Well hear this: your notebook would get full if I were interested for discussions with you. Fact is I consider such discussions meaningless and pointless. There is someone else in here who does nothing else but just that though. He is called Bananiot, and you might call him up after he is done trying to solve the Cyprob with Piratis.

[Pyrpolizer]

And alex since I am not the most objective person to talk about Greek politics and Politicians why don't you address your queries to the TCs to tell you of who exactly they think invaded Cyprus before Turkey invaded? You might get some more objective answers.