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[Piratis]

paaul12, you are lying as usual. In 1974 no TC was harmed until after the Turkish invasion had started. Some Greek Cypriots after they heard the news about the Turkish invaders killing thousands of Greek Cypriots, and performing the worst of atrocities (e.g. raping under age girls) have retaliated and killed some hundreds of TCs.

The Turks have been the aggressors for the 99% of our history, and then they are trying to present themselves as the innocent victims that deserve 1/3rd of our country. Ridiculous!

That the TCs went to the north as refugees is the biggest joke ever. Here is a map that the TC leader Kucuk made in the 50s. Apparently TCs becoming "refugees" and stealing our land has been their dream even before then.

[elko]

The 1960 agreement was a partnership between Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots but you know bloody who did not want to share the administration.

Eventually they forced the Turkish Cypriots out of the government, they threatened their lives so that the Turkish Cypriots had to take refuge in enclaves until 1974. Then the Turkish army had a legal opportunity to come and rescue the Turkish Cypriots.

Turkish Cypriots left some land behind in the south too but its suits the liers to forget all this and talk about thieves in the north. This is the biggest lie.

The liers have now put all their hopes in EU and the desire of Turkey to join. There is a limit to what Turkey will agree to and TRNC is a national cause in Turkey. So my friends I do not want to disappoint you but you will not get TRNC or Turkey into submission and with this kind of attitude you are going to lose everything. TRNC is here to stay unless you get rid of Papadop and start to see reason. Papadop is the biggest traitor for Cyprus but you have not realized this yet. You will when it is too late. For me Long Live Papadop.
ismet

[elko]

I forgot, all those who disapprove of Greek Cypriot bullying tactics, go and sign the petition. I have done so already and had dozens of private e.mails congratulating me. So it is read widely.
ismet

[paaul12]

paaul12, you are lying as usual. In 1974 no TC was harmed until after the Turkish invasion had started. Some Greek Cypriots after they heard the news about the Turkish invaders killing thousands of Greek Cypriots, and performing the worst of atrocities (e.g. raping under age girls) have retaliated and killed some hundreds of TCs.

The Turks have been the aggressors for the 99% of our history, and then they are trying to present themselves as the innocent victims that deserve 1/3rd of our country. Ridiculous!

That the TCs went to the north as refugees is the biggest joke ever. Here is a map that the TC leader Kucuk made in the 50s. Apparently TCs becoming "refugees" and stealing our land has been their dream even before then.

I have no idea where u went to school or your upbringing, but I can say that you must have been a STAR pupil in the subject of propaganda, the state truly done a fantastic job on you.

I think you need to get out a bit more in the world and open your eyes and mind. next you will be telling us that the Turkish Cypriots went north for a holiday, get real!

False history gets made all day, any day; the truth of the new is never on the news

[paaul12]

piratis, read this thought of u, if u want a good laugh this morning read it, i know everyone else is laughing at u


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

What I find peculiar and disturbing is that almost the entire country, with eyes closed for two-and-a-half years, is happy to follow Papadopoulos, without ever thinking where he is taking it. There is an explanation for all those who belong to the ‘no-settlement camp’ and are perfectly at ease with partition, such as Demetris Christofias, Yiannakis Omirou et al – they have the same ultimate objective as the president.

But what about the rest of the politicians? Apart from United Democrats leader, Michalis Papapetrou, who has the courage to articulate his views, there is nobody else. It is depressing to watch the DISY leadership indulging in sloganeering and, in some instances, fully backing Papadopoulos’ thoughtless policy because it is afraid to be seen to disagree with the government.

And it is even more depressing to watch the government of Greece, passively dragged along by Papadopoulos and Lillikas and publicly supporting their idiotic policy which the whole world is laughing at. I fear there will be even more laughter in the coming week.

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2006

i think it proves my point, going around with your eyes shut

[Piratis]

The 1960 agreement was a partnership between Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots but you know bloody who did not want to share the administration.

You walked away for the administration in order to pursue your dream of partition. Why are you still hiding? I even posted you the map for partition that your leader created in 1957!!!

Eventually they forced the Turkish Cypriots out of the government, they threatened their lives so that the Turkish Cypriots had to take refuge in enclaves until 1974. Then the Turkish army had a legal opportunity to come and rescue the Turkish Cypriots.

There was an intercommunal conflict that an EQUAL number of TCs and GCs was killed. Stop presenting yourselves as the victims when even during that period you were the aggressors as well. The TCs went to the enclaves to contact their war against us better, but they have infact returned by 1968 not 1974 as you falsely said.

In 1974, I will repeat, no TC was killed until after the Turkish invasion had started. So the protection of TCs could not have been the reason. It was obviously an excuse so that Turkey will occupy 1/3rd of Cyprus, as they have been always planning.

Turkish Cypriots left some land behind in the south too but its suits the liers to forget all this and talk about thieves in the north. This is the biggest lie.

The 18% of TCs left some land behind and they took twice as much in the occupied 37% of our country. Furthermore, we didn't give property titles to your properties in the free areas to GCs or foreigners. On the other hand you issued fake property titles to yourselves and you are trying to gain on the loss of our refugees.

[Piratis]

paaul12, you are lying as usual. In 1974 no TC was harmed until after the Turkish invasion had started. Some Greek Cypriots after they heard the news about the Turkish invaders killing thousands of Greek Cypriots, and performing the worst of atrocities (e.g. raping under age girls) have retaliated and killed some hundreds of TCs.

The Turks have been the aggressors for the 99% of our history, and then they are trying to present themselves as the innocent victims that deserve 1/3rd of our country. Ridiculous!

That the TCs went to the north as refugees is the biggest joke ever. Here is a map that the TC leader Kucuk made in the 50s. Apparently TCs becoming "refugees" and stealing our land has been their dream even before then.

I have no idea where u went to school or your upbringing, but I can say that you must have been a STAR pupil in the subject of propaganda, the state truly done a fantastic job on you.

I think you need to get out a bit more in the world and open your eyes and mind. next you will be telling us that the Turkish Cypriots went north for a holiday, get real!

False history gets made all day, any day; the truth of the new is never on the news

paaaul, point to me even one lie that I said? I pointed to you your lies but apparently all you can do in return is empty words that have no effect on me.

[elko]

There is a limit even for telling lies but not so for some.
Piratis wrote

Stop presenting yourselves as the victims when even during that period you were the aggressors as well. The TCs went to the enclaves to contact their war against us better,

What can I say? 18% of the population took refuge in enclaves in order to attack the GCs better. What a twisted logic. I know that all the GCs are not like that but even a 10% in the population is enough to sour the relations between the two communities.

I know that in order to have peace in Cyprus the exit of Papadop from the scene is not enough. The work has to start at the schools and I am not sure how you can teach these hateful lot to think properly. I really do think that we are dealing with a hopeless case. Even if we were to send all these fanatics to psychiatrists for a couple of years, still it will not be enough. sorry folks, I have no good news for you. The case is hopeless.
ismet

[Piratis]

My friend what I said is a fact. How do you explain that both sides had about the same amount of casualties during that period??

You can not deny that:

1) That between 1963-1968 (the intercommunal conflict) both GCs and TCs were aggressors and victims. You can not only remember your victims, and forget about your aggressors (TMT etc) that killed 100s of GCs.

2) The TC leadership (along with Turkey) was planning for the partition of Cyprus and most of their actions had this as an aim.

So yes, some innocent TCs went to the enclaves to protect themselves for some aggressive GCs, but at the same time, some aggressive TCs went to the enclaves so they could attack GCs easier and promote their aim of partition.

[paaul12]

Piratis;

Get hold of a copy of "Voice of Blood 2"

Then your eyes wil be opened!