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Rejected as a 'mockery' Turkey's proposals

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Postby Issy1956 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:18 am

EUropean666, Pitsilos,
If you think no "horse trading" or "Bazaarlik" goes on in the EU and everybody plays by the book your are either deluded or simple or possibly both. How do you think a divided Cyprus got in in the first case. Greece threatened to block the last enlargement if Cyprus was not included so dont give us all this B@@L@@CKS about rules and regulations that you are happy to bend for yourselves but when somebody else does it you get all prim and proper. Ok let Cyprus sink Turkey's EU hopes where will that leave you still with a divided country and the partition cemented good and proper. Is that what you want?
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Postby pitsilos » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:45 am

While EU officials gave the Turkish offer a guarded welcome, there was confusion on whether it was conditional, a clause Brussels rejects.


http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/article ... ARNING.xml

Issy1956, i posted the same article again so you didn't miss it. the matter is between the eu, ankara and the protocal ankara signed. it has nothing to do with the roc.

if anything the roc tried in vain to support turkey out of her obligations by supporting the finns. i guess you have nothing to say about that.

for the last 2 weeks we were hearing the finns and the deal, turkey knew quite well the deal she refused. and now she is coming up with that? you think someone is gonna get fooled with this? you don't think turkey offered this the last 2 weeks and got a flat no? you think they are this stupid?

if you ask me a deal was done last week but noone is saying anything.
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Postby BigDutch » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:53 am

Issy1956 wrote: Whats wrong with setting a time limit for the Cyprus Problem to be solved within a very limited time period


Nothing wrong with a time limit just not an ultimatum on a limited offer - why not "all ports for one year" or "one port for all years" but not "one port for one year".

Anyway regarding the solving of the Cyprus Problem with a time limit ? It would be called a "schedule of events" rather than a time limit and the events would be set and agreed by all parties involved around an agreed plan of action.
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Postby zan » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:46 am

pitsilos wrote:
While EU officials gave the Turkish offer a guarded welcome, there was confusion on whether it was conditional, a clause Brussels rejects.


http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/article ... ARNING.xml

Issy1956, i posted the same article again so you didn't miss it. the matter is between the eu, ankara and the protocal ankara signed. it has nothing to do with the roc.

if anything the roc tried in vain to support turkey out of her obligations by supporting the finns. i guess you have nothing to say about that.

for the last 2 weeks we were hearing the finns and the deal, turkey knew quite well the deal she refused. and now she is coming up with that? you think someone is gonna get fooled with this? you don't think turkey offered this the last 2 weeks and got a flat no? you think they are this stupid?

if you ask me a deal was done last week but noone is saying anything.



Then don't be upset if the EU makes a decision to please it self rather than the RoC.
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Postby EUropean666 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:56 am

Issy1956 wrote:EUropean666, Pitsilos,
If you think no "horse trading" or "Bazaarlik" goes on in the EU and everybody plays by the book your are either deluded or simple or possibly both. How do you think a divided Cyprus got in in the first case. Greece threatened to block the last enlargement if Cyprus was not included so dont give us all this B@@L@@CKS about rules and regulations that you are happy to bend for yourselves but when somebody else does it you get all prim and proper. Ok let Cyprus sink Turkey's EU hopes where will that leave you still with a divided country and the partition cemented good and proper. Is that what you want?


Greece was within EU, Greek people are paying taxes and money to run EU, turkey is not a member of EU, so it has not the authority to make suggestions to EU.
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Postby DT. » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:32 pm

Issy1956 wrote:EUropean666, Pitsilos,
If you think no "horse trading" or "Bazaarlik" goes on in the EU and everybody plays by the book your are either deluded or simple or possibly both. How do you think a divided Cyprus got in in the first case. Greece threatened to block the last enlargement if Cyprus was not included so dont give us all this B@@L@@CKS about rules and regulations that you are happy to bend for yourselves but when somebody else does it you get all prim and proper. Ok let Cyprus sink Turkey's EU hopes where will that leave you still with a divided country and the partition cemented good and proper. Is that what you want?


Don't ask if thats what we want. Ask if thats what you want.

What will change for us.....nothing
What will change for you? Turkey will turn its back on the EU, probably turn a little less secular and you will become a province of Turkey. Enjoy.
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Postby pitsilos » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:33 pm

zan wrote:
pitsilos wrote:
While EU officials gave the Turkish offer a guarded welcome, there was confusion on whether it was conditional, a clause Brussels rejects.


http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/article ... ARNING.xml

Issy1956, i posted the same article again so you didn't miss it. the matter is between the eu, ankara and the protocal ankara signed. it has nothing to do with the roc.

if anything the roc tried in vain to support turkey out of her obligations by supporting the finns. i guess you have nothing to say about that.

for the last 2 weeks we were hearing the finns and the deal, turkey knew quite well the deal she refused. and now she is coming up with that? you think someone is gonna get fooled with this? you don't think turkey offered this the last 2 weeks and got a flat no? you think they are this stupid?

if you ask me a deal was done last week but noone is saying anything.



Then don't be upset if the EU makes a decision to please it self rather than the RoC.


zan i don't know what the deal is but i'm certain a deal was done the last couple of days.

i reckon i could knowing the next day will be a new day for another battle :lol:
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Postby G.Man » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:54 pm

Britain, Turkey's strongest backer in the EU, applauded Ankara's initiative as "really significant". "It is essential that the EU responds," a British official said.



Ah It makes me so proud to be British... NOT!!!!

No doubt that reponse from the British Govt was written by an American....

Ack, when will Britain stop being Americas puppy dog...

The US is like a big bully in the school playground, demanding money with menaces, while the UK stands behind them going "yeah do it!"

Its about time we realised we should be supporting other exisiting european countries not the United States of Americaland...

Join the Euro, start buying oil in euros from the middle east, and watch the american economy crash like a stone...

:D :D
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Postby Mills Chapman » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:17 pm

I figured that someone here would have posted this article in the "Jokes and Enigmas" section. :P
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Postby paaul12 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:34 pm

All this will not be finished in the first hundred days. Nor will it be finished in the first thousand days, nor in the life of this administration, nor even perhaps in our lifetime on this planet. But let us begin. Efforts and courage are not enough without purpose and direction. Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate.

"Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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