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[EUropean666]

It doesnt say for "trnc" official government....turkey will have to pay close to a million pounds..good job turkey! there are 2000 petitions on the list....this makes close to several billion pounds....cyprus can blow up the turkish economy.

[pitsilos]

i am not quite sure uncle sam will be coming with a money bag. they didn't seem to pledge much during the annan plan, what makes you sure they will now? have you got something in writing and not sharing with us?

did you also see how the lira is affected with the a tiny RoC, it kinda sents shivers in the turkish stock market. who would have thought? well somebody knew.

all i gotta say and either way you look at it, how true is the prediction of james callaghan, who said back in 1974, cyprus is today the prisoner of turkey, in time turkey will become the prisoner of cyprus.
i will let you ponder on this one paulie

[Pyrpolizer]

From Ancient Greek:
"Gela o moros kan ti mi geloio ei."

Moron is laughing even when there is nothing to laugh for.
Subsitute laugh with party.

[BigDutch]

Do we detect a tad of bitterness from our GC neighbours? when things go a little against their wishes..

wow - this is a viewpoint that i don't see in the slightest !?!

ECHR awarding damages because Turkey is seen as a bad boy - that is not something going against GC wishes - that is a fact and has been reported the world over. Turkey = naughty, Cyprus = victim.

I still can't see why there is anything for Turkey to celebrate. On the "Property Commission" the ECHR asked Turkey to set something up to deal with the huge number of applicants that all have a case against them. Turkey did as requested as it knows it will be a lot lower profile to have the "Property Commission" giving out compensation rather than the ECHR. Lastly, if the "TRNC" is involved in anyway then those that don't recognise this administration as lawful can ignore the commission and go to the ECHR anyway so nothing has changed as far as i can see.

[Kikapu]

It doesnt say for "trnc" official government....turkey will have to pay close to a million pounds..good job turkey! there are 2000 petitions on the list....this makes close to several billion pounds....cyprus can blow up the turkish economy.

Since not all cases are equal or same, therefore neither will be the awards to each and every petitioner. I assume Turkey will have the choice to either pay the damages ( awards ) or simply allow the petitioner to return to their property. Turkey will just simply pay off all the relatively small awards to the petitioner to close their case, and allow those back to their property if the awards are too large. I wonder just how many would want to return back to their property, to live amongst the TC's, without a settlement to the whole Cyprus problems.

[BigDutch]

I wonder just how many would want to return back to their property, to live amongst the TC's, without a settlement to the whole Cyprus problems.

Maybe not many will want to live under Turkish occupation with Turkish settlers but many would be happy to live next to TC's.

if the results are (a) compensation in hard-cash or (b) ability to live/use property then if one chooses (a) you get a sum of cash and lose the property.

If you choose (b) you immediately are recognised as the land-owner by Turkey (which currently doesn't happen) which means you can do as you wish with it, and won't have to worry that someone will build some houses or a hotel on it ! Whilst many people will choose not to live there at the moment, the security of knowing that it is again their property which they can rely on being theirs at any point in the future will be a massive positive.

At the moment most refugees feel that they have had their land/property stolen, choice (b) from the commission will "give back" their land/property.

[EUropean666]

Can the turkish economy pay all those damages? it wont afford it at all

Till now it has paid more than 3-4 million euros on damages and fees for the european court for 2-3 cases.

[Viewpoint]

Peanuts, money can always be found, you guys really don't get it do you, we have never claimed you cant have your land back or compensation, what it means is that you have to apply to the "Turkish" commission for restitution or compensation, and then if you choose come live in the TRNC under our laws and regulations if you don't then the land will just sit there or there again you may even choose to sell are you ready to do this? what will your administration do? call you traitors or Turk lovers?? scare you into not applying??

Yorgo applies to commission for his house in the north but Hasan lives in it who has lost his house in the south, will the GC administration empty Hasans house so that Yorgo can have his house back? or will Hasan have to live in the south for 6 months? and apply through the GC courts??

[paaul12]

anyway then those that don't recognise this administration as lawful can ignore the commission and go to the ECHR anyway so nothing has changed as far as i can see.

How much u willing 2 bet on that c**P statement?

First engage your brain and think about what u r saying, do you honestly believe that the ECHR will give the green light to The Property Commission in The TRNC, a body that is consider a local remedy for the solving of land disputes and then say:

“hey guys if you don’t fancy going through The Property Commission in The TRNC you can come direct to us”


An applicant can only take his case to the ECHR once he has finished ALL available appeals open to him in the TRNC

Keep going that’s the best laugh I have had today

[paaul12]

BARÇIN YİNANÇ

ISTANBUL - Turkish Daily News

Greek Cypriots suffered a big blow yesterday when the European Court of Human Rights made a critical decision that will directly affect the fate of applications by approximately 1,400 Greek Cypriots for the return of their property in the northern part of the island and compensation for the loss of its use, claiming that they were denied access following the military intervention by Turkey in 1974.

The court has decided to award 885,000 euros compensation to an applicant, Mrs. Myria Xenides-Arestis, roughly the same amount offered by the Property Commission established by the Turkish Cypriot authorities.

More importantly, the court welcomed the steps taken by the Turkish side to establish a domestic remedy in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC) and moreover ruled that the new compensation and restitution mechanism established by the Turkish Cypriots meets -- in principle -- the court's standards.

Turkish diplomatic sources expressed satisfaction with the European court ruling, asserting that it had effectively declared the IPM an effective remedy. This is an important decision for all pending applications. One can only apply to the court after having exhausted domestic remedies. We now expect the court to refer all pending cases to the Property Commission in the KKTC, a diplomatic source told the Turkish Daily News.


If the European court's decision is made final, the consequences may be the heaviest price the Greek Cypriots will pay for their rejection of the Annan plan, since they have not encountered any serious problem for saying no in the 2004 referenda from either the EU or United Nations.

This will certainly come as a big disappointment to the Greek Cypriots, the TDN was told, since they were expecting the court's 1998 ruling on the Loizidou case to set the precedent for such applications.