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If I were the TRNC government right now I would,

Postby turkcyp » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:38 pm

If I were the TRNC government right now I would,

1) thank Turkish army and ask them to gradually leave the north in phases, like 1/3 in the next coming 3 years, 1/3 between 3-6 years, and the rest 1/3 of the troops when there is a solution accepted by both sides on the island

2) ask UN or any other third party (USA or EU force) to take over the security of TCs in absence of leaving Turkish army.

3) open the land (including Varosha) that were to return to GCs under Annan Plan into settlement to GCs, and gradually locate the current residents of those land into portion which will not be returned to GCs. Until the solution the administration of this land would be under TCs. Announce that as Annan Plan asked for if there is a solution these lands would be given to Greek State

4) open the villages in Karpas that were going to be in the Turkish State in Annan Plan, but will inhabit its original GC residents, into settlement of those GCs

5) start changing your internal laws in line with EU laws, and do not differentiate between GCs and other EU nationals in terms of those laws. (including the laws related buying property, and voting)

6) start the property commission as described in Annan Plan, appoint its TC members and ask RoC to fill its other members. If RoC refuses to appoint members, then ask EU (or UN, or ECHR) to appoint members. Start financing all the functioning of this commission and start settling the property issue as proposed by the Annan Plan.

7) conduct a census different than the ones before, to correctly identify who are settlers in today’s north population. Arrange these into categories like
- those who father, mother, or spouse is a TC
- those who are born here or spent substantial amount of their life here
- those newcomers that come to island after later.

In short know who come to island when, and become citizen when, and their origins, etc. etc.
so that during negotiations of solution the whole issue of settlers would be much clearer

8) finance and conduct a scientific survey (may be during census) asking people their views about Annan Plan, which portion of Annan Plan they want improved, what portions of Annan Plan they are willing to compromise more, etc. etc.

9) start applying visa requirements to anybody (including Turks) who is not a EU citizen, also start asking for the passports at every entrance to north cyprus to everybody. Not necesarily stamp the EU members, but ask for those passports to see who is entering and who is staying in the north.

10) Adapt Euro as its currency instead of New Turkish Lira.

These are ten initial points. Feel free to add or deduct some points.
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Postby brother » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:46 pm

Have a visa requirement for all turkish nationals etc. coming into cyprus as a way to asses who is actually coming i.e peasants or scholars for example.
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Postby turkcyp » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:50 pm

brother wrote:Have a visa requirement for all turkish nationals etc. coming into cyprus as a way to asses who is actually coming i.e peasants or scholars for example.


This is actually point 9, in my list.
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Postby turkcyp » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:54 pm

Actually I am changing my point 2. I rather have USA or EU force (a militarily capable force) rather than UN force for TC security.
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Postby brother » Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:23 pm

sorry about point 9, did not notice it for what ever reason.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:23 pm

This looks like what may happen if the solution is not reached before the 3rd of October.

However, your presumption is that the EU and Cyprus will accept this. I think if the 'trnc' plays the game this way they will fall into what Papadopoulos would prefer and be sure he will actually push for cencession after concession which will be tied to Turkeys EU course.

This kind of 'road map' will not be as straightforward as one might initially think!
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Postby boulio » Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:31 am

I have a better idea why do you de-mine your side of the buffer zone just like the ROC is doing for starters.
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Postby brother » Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:16 pm

Im sure the initiative will be taken soon.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:46 pm

Turkcyp,
what you wrote above shows a person who really cares about finding a solution. My opinion however, is that if you were the president in the occupied areas, you would not be allowed to do not even one of the things you mentioned. Unless perhaps do what Talat was ordered to do i.e. encourage the TCs to sell freely 2/3rds of the GC properties as if it were theirs, because that’s what the "divine plan" was talking about !!
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Postby insan » Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:15 am

MiCAtCyp, have you ever thought why can't TCs sell the GC properties which are in will be returned area? And have you ever thought why don't anybody want to buy that lands which are in will be returned areas? Have you ever thought that majority of TCs would say yes to a plan which will make them an ineffective minority and lead them to emigrate from Cyprus. Have you ever thought TCs who does not trust the leadership of GCs would ever contribute on their own death decree?


The only political parties which kept on communicate with each other and contribute on some bi-communal projects, rapproachment, reunification; afterwards 74 and even before 74 were AKEL and CTP.


How did CTP manage to do this in an occupied North, if as you supposed was strictly controlled by Turkish army?

Why don't you try to face with the reality that finally even CTP too, has understood that the GC leadeship is not trustworthy to collaborate on any issue?

Is TC leadership any better? At least they have never intended to get the whole Island and exterminate whole GCs... but it obviously seems to me that the GC leadership still consider to be the sole ruler of the Cyprus, feasible; specially afterwards they made the application to become an EU member...
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