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Turkey wrote the Annan Plan....

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Klik » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:31 pm

There are not only 2 "communities" in the island, there are a lot.

Cypriots("GCs" as you like to call them)
Some of the Turks
Armenians
Maronites
Immigrants from Russia, Egypt, Israel, Cental/Eastern European countries etc

There are also some temporary citizens, like the workers from Pakistan, Sri Lanka, the Philippines etc and some other temporary citizens, like Chinese, Greek, South American etc students.

All permanent residents mentioned, speak the language of Cyprus, which for various reasons is Greek.
You don't speak Greek, don't wanna learn it, and claim to be a Cypriot, and your only evidence is that you(or ancestors) were born either during the Ottoman period, or after the 1974 invasion in the occupied lands. And claim to be my compatriot. I have been very nostalgic of seeing my country, but I refuse to give my passport to any Ottoman ruler of my home, since I have the chance not to. I'd rather be patient than betray my soul to Turkey like some of the "Turkish Cypriots"...

P.S: Cyprus political parties are pu$$ies... They do anything foreigners tell them. And most people in Cyprus think that we have left./right wing parties etc. AKEL is a central to right(Democrat) party... DHSY is the same. They just use different "policies" and "ideas" in public, to seem more left or right respectively....If you expect people to base their opinions on the parties that consist the Cypriot parliament etc, then you are simply stupid... If you don't have your own ideas, you have issues within yourself. I'm not waiting for AKEL/DHSY/DHKO/EDEK(KISSOS) or anyone to tell me what to think and when to pee... :roll:
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Postby mehmet » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:33 pm

Kifeas,

I am encouraged if it is true that Klik's ideas are on the margins but they were once the predominant view. In the Enosis referundum wasn't there a 99% vote in favour?

The Turkish republic was politically neutral in WW2 and has not been at war with Bulgaria, Greece, the Soviet Union (or more recently Georgia and Armenia) , Iraq, Iran or Syria. It's action in Cyprus came after many years of provocative behaviour from the RoC towards the Turkish Cypriot minority and after one of the counter-signatories to the Zurich agreement sponsored the overthrow of Makarios and installed as leader one who boasted how many Turks he had slaughtered. I won't ignore the Turkish army going into Iraq but what would Greece do if Bulgarian's (in the guise of Macedonian nationallism) had been launching attacks on Greeks in an organised campaign. I think compared to most European states Turkey has been less involved in conflict since 1923 than most.

Can anyone provide evidence that Turkey was remotely interested in Cyprus from 1878 until the 1950s? Do you deny that union with Greece was pushed from the earliest days of British rule both form within Cyprus and Greece?
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Postby Klik » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:41 pm

Kartal_Aetos wrote:
so 3000 years ago there were no turks? lol...u fool! do some history lessons...turks may not have been called turks but they were still there...what do u think genghis khan was?


Yeah, Turks where some Chinese tribe, that was eventually mixed up with Arabs/Persians and Hindus and later on with everyone else. What's your point? What does Genghis Khan has to do with Turkey? He was a Mongol, Mongols tried to eliminate the Chinese(some of which were the Turks at that time) If you like the idea of being run off by Genghis Khan, and think of him as a hero, check your brains. Only masochists like their predators. That also proves that Cypriots are not masochists. They don't like Turks, their predators..
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Postby mehmet » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:44 pm

Hey Klik,

Do you not listen?

Didn't I already tell you that both my parent's speak Greek? The only reason I don't is because they left Cyprus to come to UK, even then I still learnt some Greek because my family always show hospitality to our Greek-speaking neighbours.

Are you really so surprised that the division has caused the level of bilingualism to decrease? Even now a significant proportion of public in north can speak Greek.
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Postby bg_turk » Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:13 pm

Klik wrote:Yeah, Turks where some Chinese tribe, that was eventually mixed up with Arabs/Persians and Hindus and later on with everyone else.

Facinating! Did you learn all of this in school?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:42 am

It’s a long time I stopped writting here after realising there is no point discussing with partitionists like Viewpoint and the vast majority of TCs who dominate this forum.

With Klik now here, at least we are having a balance.
The question is what possitive can anyone expect out of this balance?

NOTHING!

Simply the real Cypriots like Mehmet are getting hurt….
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:48 am

bg_turk wrote: Facinating! Did you learn all of this in school?


No he lived through it, like YOU did, idiot!
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:56 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
bg_turk wrote: Facinating! Did you learn all of this in school?


No he lived through it, like YOU did, idiot!


Maybe we should point out Klik is like 14 years old and acts it, who looks like an idiot now :oops:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:40 am

Perhaps you lived through it too Viewpoint, some 1400 years ago, so the group of idiots gets
larger and larger.

By the way didn’t I tell you you are wasting my time and I have nothing to talk with you anymore?

Here we found you a perfect partner, have you silly talks with Klik from now on.
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Postby humanist » Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:20 am

Mehmet , thank you for your response. Hoever I do belive I have been misunderstood. We may not choose our ethnicity but we can certainly choose how much we identify with it.

I believe that I have been consistent with my posts. I believe that Cyprus needs to be United and that All Cypriots live in peace and harmony. With the values of freedom, equality and equity in all spheres of Cypriot life, economic, spiritual, political, social and health.

I have not anywhere indicated that I have any issues with Turkish Speaking Cypriots. I do have a problem with Turkey's occupation of Cyprus.

My view is that Turkey's occupation of Cyprus has nothing to do with the protection of Turkish Speaking Cypriots. I draw this conclussion from the posts that indicate that Turksih Cypriots experince a slight form of dictatorship from Turkey and its army, and that they are disadvantaged in economic growth and infrastructure. To this end I conclude that Turskish Speaking Cypriots are used as an excuse for Turkey's own benefits. I also acknowledge that British and American interests lie, behind Turkey's invasion of Cyprus.

I acknowledge that Turkish Speaking Cypriots experinecd undue discrimination in the 1960's as Greek Cypriots had in the 1970's. So do you want to concentrate on vitctimhood and not move forward to a United Cyprus where all its people are free and share tha beautiful Island or do you want people to acknowledge that both societies have experienced the antagonism of fate and move forward.

If my desire to have a United Cyprus and United People's then let that be my crime.
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