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[skipper]

Meh I wish I could have someone send me it, but you know how the customs people are here... It does taste pretty good, but I am curious how you make it, as we usually eat it boiled with olive oil and lemon lol...this is so not the subject...

It is boiled but as with everything there are a number of different ways of cooking it, I presonally like it when its cooked with small pieces of meat, tomatoes and lemon.

Actually for such a small place, I'm surprised how much regionalism there is in terms of how things are cooked, I was having a discussion about Kolokas (Colocasia) with someone the other day and mentioned how I liked it most with meat and the looked at me like I was some kind of crazy person as they'd never heard of it being made with meat, just chicken.

[andri_cy]

Meh I wish I could have someone send me it, but you know how the customs people are here... It does taste pretty good, but I am curious how you make it, as we usually eat it boiled with olive oil and lemon lol...this is so not the subject...

It is boiled but as with everything there are a number of different ways of cooking it, I presonally like it when its cooked with small pieces of meat, tomatoes and lemon.

Actually for such a small place, I'm surprised how much regionalism there is in terms of how things are cooked, I was having a discussion about Kolokas (Colocasia) with someone the other day and mentioned how I liked it most with meat and the looked at me like I was some kind of crazy person as they'd never heard of it being made with meat, just chicken.

My mother cooks colocasi both with meat and chicken. She also makes a lemon cooked kind of it without meat at all.

[Pyrpolizer]

TC's are growing them, because that's how we get them in the UK. Our whole family eats it, and no one has ever had a medical problems, I'm happy to report.

The Tcs are growing them "illegally" then.




On a serious note now, I was wrong moloha was not really banned, simply people stopped eating it.

[andri_cy]

Pyrpolizer what are you talking about lol. My family has been eating molohas since I was a child and I was born way after the 60's and nothing is wrong with anyone in my family. Oh my we gonna have a moloha argument...

[Pyrpolizer]

Hey Adri, do you know any GC producing molohas or even selling them?
When I was a kid my mom used to collect some from nearby fields were they were growing in the wild.
After the echinococus desease everybody stopped.
So where from does your family get them?

[andri_cy]

we get them in the fields. we wash them thoroughly and then we boil them. Never even heard of it being diseased, I guess that was way before my time.

[Pyrpolizer]

Oh and when I said the plant carried that dog desease, it was because everybody collected them from out the fields where a lot of maverick sick dogs existed. Not because the plant itself carries the desease.

Anyway, i better return to things i can handle better, I still owe a reply to my friend skipper for his excellent post.

[Pyrpolizer]

Hey Adri, I just noticed you got a promotion here. When did you become a moderator?

[Kikapu]

@ Kikapu,

Do I notice a shift towards quality posts lately considering also the posts of our friend Skipper?

Generally I believe you over weight the EU bid regarding the decision of the GCs to vote down the Anan Plan. I can assure you this was not the reason. Very few GCs voted against the Anan Plan thinking we would be able to get a better deal through the EU.
It seems from what you and many TCs say, that you -and most TCs- think otherwise….

What most TCs also seem to misunderstand is that the Cyprus problem as it stands today, is not a matter of equal give and take. Land and properties claimed by GCs are not equally exchangable with political representation in a United Cyprus. In fact most TCs (not to mention the settlers) would never accept such a deal. I believe the reason why the Cyprus problem cannot be solved is because a)The Gcs dont have anything of equal importance to offer in exchange b)The Tcs don’t want to give up what they consider more valuable to what the GCs can offer in exchange.

You wonder why on earth the RoC government is using the EU bid where as you say they run the risk of having thrown 2 bad cards and eventually get 2 other cards that might be worse. The answer is simple. Because when one loses, he has no other choice. On the other hand the TCs think the GCs are doing that because they want to get as much as possible. I hope you see the difference between the 2 views.

I totally agree with you that as time passes with no possitive steps forward we the GCs are losing the TCs, Turkey may finally annex the Northern part, partition may get cemented and the Cypriots (both GCs and TCs) lose for ever. So what do you think the GCs and the Tcs should do to avert this possibility?

Your question whether the RoC governing elites really want reunification or not, was indeed one of the questions I asked myself in the past. The only way to check this is to watch what the RoC Government is doing. For example suppose you were RoC government and you would like the status quo to remain. What would you do regarding the recent incident at the English school? Would you encourage it or would you suppress it? What would you do regarding the current collapse of the Electricity generators at the northern part? Would you give Electricity within 24 hours, or would you find 100 excuses to refuse? .

I try to "spread" myself in different topics and not get stuck on politics only, therefore the quality of my posts do vary from topic to topic. But where the topics involves Human Tragedy, I take it seriously, since I had my share of sad events within my childhood in Cyprus.

I agree with most of your points. As I said before, had I been in the GC's position, I too would have wanted a better deal, than what the AP provided, so I'm not critical of the GC's throwing away couple of "low cards" for higher ones.


Actions the GC's and TC's can take to avert a Partition or Annexation of Northern Cyprus by Turkey is for the RoC to invite the TC's to run the country together, with something in lines with "Kifeas's Plan". Make it a very sincere and transparent offer. The RoC needs to go the extra mile now than ever before to reverse the direction the "TRNC" is going, which is towards Turkey. It may even be too late, which is all the reason to stop screwing around. Piratis calls this capitulation by the RoC. I call it a smart move to save Cyprus, if the desire is there. As you said, the TC's have more to lose than the GC's if a settlement is reached. It is time to reach a compromise. It is time to exchange land for the GC's and Political positions to TC's. However, I believe now, the way to move forward will be in a Federation System, and no longer a Republic. I would even name the two States as Gold Coast and Pearl Coast, so that we can get away from the negative connotation of a divided Cyprus with the North and South labels.

As for the English School incident, it should be handled with the local police and District Attorney, to handle the offenders in a Court of Justice.
As for electricity for the "TRNC", I would urge the RoC to provide the "juice", since alternative actions would just adds more fuel to the fire, to create a divide.

In closing, let me add these few words. Who has in their lives have not been wronged by someone or something or even by authority. We have had homes and cars broken into. We have been cheated in business deals. We have been lied to and taken advantage of by friends and family as well as strangers. We have been mistreated by Authority and abused by others. The list can go on and on, but at the end of the day, we handle all these situations one by one, costing a lot of money along the way, but we all seem to get through it, and continue with life. Well, Cypriots will just need to find a way to move forward, or else, the alternative is being stuck in one place.

Is there a will to move forward.??

[Kikapu]

Meh I wish I could have someone send me it, but you know how the customs people are here... It does taste pretty good, but I am curious how you make it, as we usually eat it boiled with olive oil and lemon lol...this is so not the subject...

It is boiled but as with everything there are a number of different ways of cooking it, I presonally like it when its cooked with small pieces of meat, tomatoes and lemon..

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@Andri_cy,

I use to take Molohiya with me to the States in my suit case, and even mentioned it on my customs form, and the custom officers would take one look at it and let me go on my way. I was never sure if they knew what it was, or they thought, hey, if you want to eat that stuff, be our guest. I was always concerned, that it might be mistaken for "weed", if you know what I mean.

@Skipper,

I have never just boiled it. I make it with meat with no fat at all, and lots of Onions, Diced can of Tomatoes, Lemon Juice, and lots and lots of Virgin Olive Oil, and let it simmer for 4-5 hours. You can smell the aroma from a block away. It actually tastes better, the next day.