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[Piratis]

There are no borders within Cyprus and the only state that exists is the Republic of Cyprus.

Since 1974 we are war with Turkey that illegally occupies 1/3rd of the sovereign and independent Republic of Cyprus. We are at cease fire now, but the war will end only when Republic of Cyprus will be liberated from the foreign occupation.

Murataga, let me know if you do not accept these facts so I will give the relevant UN resolutions that demand the respect of the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus as well as the ones who declare the pseudo puppet state in the occupied areas as legally invalid.

All Turkish Cypriots that respect the rest of Cypriots receive and will always receive our respect (such as Bir). Those racists that support illegalities and crimes against us will sooner or later face the consequences of their illegal actions.

[BirKibrisli]

Birkibrisli

Is that not profiting from the spoils of the "peace operation"? How safe would you say the TCs feel in their homes knowing that their state has become a heaven for drug pushers,gamblers,prostitutes and the money laundrerers? Not to mention knife wielding petty thieves,muggers, child molesters,traffic terrorists,and other desperadoes?

Don't you think that building a state on other peoples misery,pain ,and suffering will only lead to more of the same down the track?
Are you happy for the TRNC to be known as the immoral,corrupt, pariah state of the Mediterranean Sea? Is that the gift you want to leave your children? And for what? So that you can satisfy your twisted Turkish nationalism?

You are out of order the same could be said for the south, why do you not say the same crap to the GCs? Have you lived in the TRNC over the last 20 years? you really do need to come and experience what goes on here and the life we lead and then talk about what we wanna leave to our children. Compare south with north and the crap we hear coming out of the "country" built on our misery,....you to hit a brick GC wall with piratis he is just the tip of the iceberg of people you want to live with from god knows how many thousands of miles away.

Well done.

I am sorry my words have upset you,Viewpoint.
But I have to be true to myself.I strongly believe that we must break the cycle of bitterness and hatred now,and not to leave our mess to the future generations. I know it is not easy,but we owe it to our country to try to built the best "possible" nation out of what we have.
I don't have to live in the TRNC to know what is going on there.
You might be happy to bury your head in the sand,and pretend that all is well. But some people are sick of living in a military open prison where their elected President cannot even visit Marash(Varosia) without permission from the Military. They are sick of seeing their elected representatives totally impotent in front of the Turkish embassador who is the de facto dictator of their state.They are sick of feeling helpless in the face of an influx of people from Turkey who have no hope of ever integrating socially or culturally with TCs. They are sick of watching their social fabric deterioting because of the criminal element which controls the drug trade and the casinos and the gambling shops and the banks that are used to make a handful of influencial people very rich. Their voices are getting louder and louder,and thanks to the internet it reaches even us in the diaspora.These people are crying out for selfdetermination,yes,but of the real kind,not one imposed by Turkey to suit her needs.These people believe that their own culture and identity are under grave threat,and unless they embrace their "Cypriotness" they will disappear from the face of the earth. The GCs will be fine;despite everything they are surviving and prospering in the South. Turks in Turkey will be fine;they will eventually get into the EU or find a better alternative to guarantee their future. But tell me: where will the TCs be in 50 years time unless they can embrace their Cypriotness???

[MR-from-NG]

There are no borders within Cyprus and the only state that exists is the Republic of Cyprus.

No borders? Are you having a laugh? I challenge you to come across to the TRNC without a passport.

[Strahd]

There are no borders within Cyprus and the only state that exists is the Republic of Cyprus.

No borders? Are you having a laugh? I challenge you to come across to the TRNC without a passport.

The fact that the turkish army is forcing the citizens of the RoC to show passport when they are entering the areas they control through military enforcement does not change the fact that there is no TRNC and there are no borders.

[MR-from-NG]

The fact that the turkish army is forcing the citizens of the RoC to show passport when they are entering the areas they control through military enforcement does not change the fact that there is no TRNC and there are no borders.

NO TRNC? NO BORDERS? YOU PEOPLE ARE FUNNY LIVING IN DENIAL NO TC's WE DONT EXIST

[pantheman]

Piratis,

save your breath, its no good talking to those guys (Bir,VP,Mrfrog) you will get more sense from a brick wall. It is quite clear what they want, they are not going to agree on giving back what isn't theirs.

I would be happy for things to stay as they are, the RoC should stop the crossings in both directions and then we'll see if mother turkey will keep on pouring money into a dead state, oh sorry i should have said a puppet state.

[Piratis]

There are no borders within Cyprus and the only state that exists is the Republic of Cyprus.

No borders? Are you having a laugh? I challenge you to come across to the TRNC without a passport.

Challenge me as much as you want old beggar but you and your puppet state will not get even a single cent from me. In fact I hope they will close the check points soon and make you beg some more about an end to the "isolation"

save your breath, its no good talking to those guys (Bir,VP,Mrfrog) you will get more sense from a brick wall. It is quite clear what they want, they are not going to agree on giving back what isn't theirs.

You are wrong about Bir. Bir has nothing to do with partitionists like VP and mrfromng.

This is why I accepted to make this discussion, because Bir asked. If it was just with VP and his similar I wouldn't bother. I have long said that discussing anything with those guys is a total waste of time as the only thing they care about is how to gain on our loss and partition our country. Those people do not understand from words, so why bother?

[raymanuva]

i hope they will close checkpoints too...

[Viewpoint]

Birkibrisli please make a comparison of the status of TCs pre 1974 and how they are now. When did you last visit the TRNC and see how the average TC lives?

We are making a go of it despite all the disadvantages and we never claim to be perfect but I would much rather live as is with all the imperfections you state than live in a GC state under the administration of people like Piraits and Kifeas who will not as much as look your way once they have gotten what they wanted and that's land.

Did you not notice the reaction of Piratis when he realized what he was demanding was seen as being unreasonable and that he sole aim was to reduce the TC people down to 18% of the island. please show me 1 state in the world where the population % determine the amount of land they administer.

You would do better to direct some of criticism towards the GC arguments as you to have experienced first hand what our negotiators are up against when it come to solving the Cyprus issue, I have personally seen this during the Annan plan and let me tell you the GC side made no friends of the UN or the EU intermediaries.

[zan]

Right so it is settled then. We are going to open the boarders and all the refugees are going to live in the same houses as their Turkish counterparts and have mixed race children by the score. We will sacrifice all the first born males to the Greek gods and then distribute their bodies amongst the poor TCs. The settlers will be put on a ship and that will be sunk in Turkish waters. We will have a government of 99% GC, ½% TC and ½ % new Cypriot mouse taking up the rear. Filching, I think it’s called in the gay society. The Donkeys will live in enclaves and only be allowed to vote on Tuesdays. Disney will build a new park in Varosha and that will be run jointly by the UN and Mickey Mouse. “ENOSIS and TAKSIM”, will be our new motto and will be printed on Cypriot currency. We will have a new flag that looks exactly like the RoC one today but will be designed by a GC. The constitution will be written in stone and changed accordingly as to when the GC presidente’ thinks fit and all doner kebabs around the world will contain pork.


Where do I sign.