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A Great OWN Goal

Postby paaul12 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:24 am

An elephant in the kitchen, a shot in the foot, and maybe a great own goal. 27/11/2006

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The world's politicians trying to settle the Cyprus issue face a number of courses of action; these courses fall into two fundamental categories, a unified island or a divided island. In its simplest terms The Greeks will accept nothing less than a unified island, but unified under a Greek dominated Government.

The Turkish Cypriots refuse to be dominated by a Greek puppet government, they tried that once and faced oblivion because of it, The unified island option sounds good to outsiders, sort of like a coming together of a divided people, like when the east and west Germans broke down the Berlin wall and met in the middle hugging each other and celebrating. Cyprus isn't like that, because on the one side, the Greeks, want the Turkish Cypriots off the island, and will settle for nothing less. On the other side the Turkish Cypriots selfishly refuse to give the Greeks a second chance at annihilating them.

The latest Greek law regarding property appears to punish anyone for buying former Greek land; there has been no mention of the law regarding former Turkish land on the south side, so it would appear that anyone dealing in former Greek land could face prison, while anyone dealing in former Turkish land is ok. This law on the face of it protects the Greeks, and allows anyone to take over former Turkish land with no such penalty. This is just a sample of the Greek justice that would apply to any Turkish Cypriot who falls under the unification option.

The divided island option, otherwise known as the (bizonal option) that has in fact operated since 1974, is the only option that allows the Turkish Cypriots to exist. Though the present state of the divided island is a reality, the border, and the UN troops manning no mans land confirms it, the ROC continues to bury its head in the sand pretending they are the sole government for all of it. That's sort of like refusing to believe there is an elephant in the kitchen, when quite clearly there is one.

The biggest stumbling block always has, and always will be the Greek puppet government. For instance the present ROC leader Mr. Puppetdopolous has a 47 year history of blocking any fair solution to the Cyprus problem, in 1959 he voted against the London Zurich agreement, His latest was his recommendation to the Greek Cypriots to refuse the Annan plan. He has up to this day in whatever political position he has found himself, used his political power to frustrate all potential solutions up to and including the Annan plan, there is no reason to expect this particular politically spoiled brat to change its spots today or tomorrow.

It is possible that the timing of the announcement of this new law maybe designed to take Turkeys eye off the ball, the Greeks may hope to enrage the Turkish Cypriots into escalating the situation with a tit for tat policy; I also believe that the Greek government may have managed to shoot itself in the foot again, by passing what could be a blatantly discriminatory law, at the same time they have passed a law that they cannot possibly enforce in the land they say the law applies to. Not only may the Greeks have managed to shoot themselves in the foot but they could have scored a spectacular own goal by dispelling the myth once and for all that they have any control at all over the north of the island.

The following weeks are going to be interesting for those like me, who follow the political chess game. But I do urge Turkey and the Turkish Cypriot governments to stay dignified and keep cool heads, and to think hard and deep about their own next move.

By Jimmy Bakala

© Copyright Cyprus Times 2006


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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:21 am

didnt we have a person in the forum with the name bakala ? :?
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Postby Kartal_Aetos » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:18 am

Ok, its a stupid law...they'll never be able to actually sue anyone without then being taken to human rights court and losing...if anyone wants more details i am more than glad to give them...

but this jimmy bakala guy...is probably the WORST journalist i've ever had the misfortune to read one of his articles...lol

thats not a news article, thats a joke...it belongs in a joke newspaper like the sun or the mirror...lol...is this 'Cyprus Times' the Cypriot equivalent?

there is so much of his own personal opinion that it forgets to inform of the implications, why its a bad idea, etc etc.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:28 am

but this jimmy bakala guy...is probably the WORST journalist i've ever had the misfortune to read one of his articles...lol


This person calles himself a journalist now? :lol:

He is one of those criminals thats is involved in the illegal "sales" of Greek Cypriot properties in occupied north.

We know this crook first hand as he posted his hate propaganda here as well, since apparently part of his job is to promote the illegal "trnc" and partition as he realized his illegal business can go bankrupt and himself in jail once the Cyprus problem is solved.

I understand why he is so pissed about this law. What is going to tell to his customers now? That since they have done an illegal transaction with him they should now hide themselves and avoid using the Larnaca airport or crossing the checkpoints to the free areas as this can get them arrested?

This law is passed exactly to harm crooks like bakala who are trying to illegally sell off our properties and profit from the misery of our refugees. I am glad this law is working as it should. I knew it would, but the reaction of those criminals confirms it.
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Postby rawk » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:07 am

Piratis

Leave Jim alone, he's alright and has extensively researched the Cyprus conflict. His analysis is sound and so is his judgement.

He has no commercial axe to grind in the TRNC and does not let his interests cloud his judgement. He is one of the most impartial men I have conversed with. He is not a crook!

Anyway Piratis, what do you do?

Could we have a little pen portrait of yourself in the good old US of A.

Run your own business? Penniless Poet? Politician? Shop floor worker? Illegal Immigrant? Recluse by a lake dreaming of a Cyprus that's gone forever?

Do tell.

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Postby cypezokyli » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:29 am

rawk wrote:Piratis

Leave Jim alone, he's alright and has extensively researched the Cyprus conflict. His analysis is sound and so is his judgement.

He has no commercial axe to grind in the TRNC and does not let his interests cloud his judgement. He is one of the most impartial men I have conversed with. He is not a crook!

Anyway Piratis, what do you do?

Could we have a little pen portrait of yourself in the good old US of A.

Run your own business? Penniless Poet? Politician? Shop floor worker? Illegal Immigrant? Recluse by a lake dreaming of a Cyprus that's gone forever?

Do tell.

Rawk


so he has bought no cheap land ?

from the article above, if he has indeed "extensively" (LOL) studied the cyprus conflict there are only two possiblities :
1. he is either deliberately lying
2. there is an obvious lack of ability of comprehension.

dont ask me which of the two is worse, i would have difficulties in answering :wink:

besides, you got an answer from a tc himself :wink:
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Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:38 am

besides, you got an answer from a tc himself



With due respect Kartal does not speak for the masses. He certainly doesn't represent me. I do not, and I guess a vast majority of TC's wouldn't subscribe to his ideals.
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Postby cypezokyli » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:49 am

mrfromng wrote:
besides, you got an answer from a tc himself



With due respect Kartal does not speak for the masses. He certainly doesn't represent me. I do not, and I guess a vast majority of TC's wouldn't subscribe to his ideals.


so what do you thing about the newspaper "cyprus time" ?

hasan kahvetjioglou wrote an article last saturday in the gc newspaper politis quoting the titles of the tc newspapers. kibris, africa, yeni duzen, cumhuriyet, vatan, kibrisli, halkin sesi, vatan (excuse for possible misspealing of turkish). cyprus time was not mentioned.
wonder why

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Postby Kartal_Aetos » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:04 am

hey, any of what i said has nothing to do with what you guys said...dont get me mixed up in that bullshit....

stupid law, crap journalist...

by 'speak for the masses' and my 'ideals'....what are you talking about? i didnt express my ideals? i wasnt speaking on a political level to be speaking for the masses?

what did i say that you all 'heard' from a tc?
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Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:38 am

GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION PEOPLE!!!!

FORGET ABOUT COMPENSATING THE PAST...REMOVE THE BORDERS...EVERYONE LIVE WHERE THEY ARE NOW OR SELL THEIR HOUSE AND MOVE TO WHERE THEY WANT...

GOVERNMENT COMPENSATE FOR LOSS OF LAND IN MONETARY VALUE OR IF THE LAND IS UNINHABITED, GIVE IT BACK!!!

IT WORKS!!!! I CANT THINK OF ANY REASON WHY IT WOULDN'T...






etc... etc... etc
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