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Do You Support Klik And His/Her Ideas?

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Do You Support These Ideas?

Yes, i exactly think like Klik
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17%
No, i don't
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Yes, I partially agree.
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Total votes : 12

Do You Support Klik And His/Her Ideas?

Postby PEACE » Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:57 pm

Klik wrote:Firstly, Cyprus= Republic of Cyprus, these days. So don't call yourselves Cypriots if you do not accept that...
If you only want to refer to the island, refer to it as Cyprum, the most used name for it throughout the centuries...

You are either a Turk or a Cypriot. A combination of both indicates mental issues :wink:

Your existence is due to the Ottoman Empire. Never before the 16th century had a Turk stepped foot on Cyprus. And your parents have been the soldiers that killed all those Cypriots, Venetians and all other races that have been mixed with the Cypriot blood. That is you. That's the historical truth.

Anyone calling himself a Cypriot, speaks Greek(or spoke Latin as well during the Medieval). Phoenicians, Persians, Egyptians, Assyrians, Hellenes(Greeks), Romans, Venetians, Francs etc have passed on by generations in Cyprus. You don't see them forming minorities. You don't see them using their original language. Why is that? Because they were/are eligible settlers of Cyprus. All these years, they have spoken in Greek, and have been mixed. These are today's Cypriots.
You, on the other hand, are Turks, some of which have Cypriot blood, and some of which have spoken Greek in the past. The Greek-speakers in Cyprus are the ones called Cypriots.

All Armenian immigrants in Cyprus speak Greek first, and then Armenian(if they decide to learn the Armenian language)
Egyptian, Russian, Lebanese, Romanian, Bulgarian, Serbian immigrants through the 20th century tried and achieved to learn Greek, to become part of the Cyprus population. Those people have every right to be called citizens of Cyprus.

You on the other hand, tried over 500 years to impose the Turkish "culture"(there's none...) and mentalities and have managed to do that to some. You tried to make the island Muslim, by keeping the Catholic Church away(by allowing Orthodox, which was very weak). You still try to impose a new state after an INVASION in 1974. You are the scums in Cyprus, that want to rule Cyprus... You are the poison of Cyprus...

Some say that what happened in 1960's was a big deal. Hm... What about it. 500 years under the Ottoman Empire, living under the Turks for so many years, being mistreated and slaughtered at times, the Cypriot population decided to revolt. That was EOKA(not B). Remove colonialism and make Cyprus for the Cypriots again. Which includes, remove the Turkish pests, and any Turkish element, unless the Turk was to be obidient to the Cypriot rule.

Does that come to comparison with something else we know? What about 1821 in Greece? What happened there? 400 years under the Ottoman Empire, the Greeks revolted. Were there Turks settled in Greece then? Of course. But did they live? Only a few survived is the answer. The Greeks attempted to eliminate the Turkish element, and have succeeding up till Thraki(Thrace). Anyone complains now? No! Justice was prevailed to some extent. The Greeks tried to RE-CONQUER some parts from Bulgarian rule and some from Turkish. They didn't manage to though...

You might say that this is totally irrelevant, but if you have at least 1 point of IQ, you will see the point.

Cyprus delayed to revolt against the rulers. Both Turks and British ruled the place. Cypriots got jealous of Greek modern(19th century) history and wanted to rule themselves and some wanted to join Greece...

So, the Cypriots have failed to follow the 1821 Greek revolution, which resulted to a remaining Turkish population in the island, which now complain about those 10-20 years, neglecting the historical facts and calling anyone against them a racist and a fascist...

Some people these days, want to accomplish EOKA's target, which means, there's a possibility for an EOKA C' to come to place. I'm definetly not one of them, if you want to know, and I don't care what you think from what I previously stated. Those were facts, unarguable facts. You can either accept them, or live in ignorance. Our Turkish "friends" decide number 2, and with the help of Turkey and Britain over the years, some Cypriots go with the second...

The status quo is not on our favour these days. Turkey is too close and too strong for the Cypriots to revolt against their army and population here. So, till the status quo changes, and not anymore idiots like Makarios and Annan come to do idiocies with Cypriot land, we'll never get rid of the Turks. The balance will change, and justice will prevail in Cyprus, like it happened 200 years ago in Greece.

Rather late than never, Cypriots say...



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Postby Kifeas » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:36 pm

PEACE, do not waste your time with Klik’s views. There is no political party or any credible political movement among the GC society that subscribes or promotes such views regarding the TC community. The above views are only expressed by some marginal far right-wing neo-fascist youth organizations which fortunately do not represent more than 2%-3% of the GC youth. They are far more marginal than their mirror image of the grey wolves in Turkey, and the fact that they had chosen to act in they way they did by hiding behind hoods, is an indication of the fact that they were afraid of been arrested, punished, stigmatized and condemned by the police and the entire GC society. If they knew that their actions would have been accepted, tolerated and applauded, they wouldn’t have done so wearing hoods. I would like to remind you that the gray wolves in Turkey do what they do without wearing hoods, simply because they have a wider acceptance among the Turkish society, and they enjoy the silent acceptance and tolerance of the kemalist state and the Turkish political world, thus they are not afraid to act without covering their face.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:42 pm

I would say klik is the voice of the vast majority of GC's. The sad truth is that klik is in his teens, he is the future of Cyprus. This solidifies my belief that partition is probably the only workable formula to the Cyprob.
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Postby bg_turk » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:51 pm

According to the police chief, the parents of the pupils involved have been very co-operative and shocked by their children’s behaviour.

These children come from well-rounded families who hold a good position in society. The parents were very condemning of their children’s behaviour and officers were amazed to see how strictly the children were berated at the station,” he said, adding that the Attorney-general would decide on how to sanction the culprits.


Condemning in public, supportive in private. How else do you explain these 18-20 year olds putting hoods on and attacking TC 12-yos?

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http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 5&cat_id=1
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Postby cypezokyli » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:59 pm

klik represents a very small part of the gc society.
i disagree thought that this was an isolated insitent.

besides, as our own history (and history of other places have shown) it doesnt take more than a small minority to create a mess. for this reason I dont disagree when some gc media exagurate a bit on the topic, bc it is important to deal with these people now, before a future solution. and once again this incident is not sth that the law can solve. it has deeper causes in the cypriot society. Imo, the ministry of education should demand from its educators that they open a discussion in classes on the topic, even at the cost of loosing a couple of classes of maths or history.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:20 pm

Imo, the ministry of education should demand from its educators that they open a discussion in classes on the topic, even at the cost of loosing a couple of classes of maths or history.






Excellent idea. I wonder if this can be implemented. I rather think the reality is that the GC youth will be brainwashed with anti TC propaganda. For the TC's its a lose losing battle.
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Postby Sotos » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:47 pm

No I don't agree with his ideas. But some of the things he said are true. The Turks for 500 years are full of hate and aggression against us. They now occupy my property in occupied Cyprus so I don't hate them but I can not love them when they are supporting this!
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Postby cypezokyli » Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:10 pm

it makes me wonder what the "kathodigisi" is doing...
they ve become pretty lazy lately , as it seems :roll:
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:30 pm

Kliks good for the forum. He has enlightened us, he does not hide facts by trying to be politically correct. He tells it as it is.

We now know there is no hope in reunification. We know future generations will not have the tolerance nor the desire to live side by side with the TC's.

I was on the fence on the "reunification" issue. Having seen the true colours of the likes of Klik, Piratis, Kifeas, Pistipos and co I am now for partition. For this I thank my mentioned "compatriots".

LONG LIVE TRNC.
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Postby cypezokyli » Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:46 pm

to be honest mrfromng i can recall a number of tc being in favor of reunification, but i cannot recall not a single post you made being in favor of reunification...

if you could direct me to one of those post of yours, i am ready to apologise
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