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Condemnation Of English School Attack!

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Piratis » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:22 am

Viewpoint, your whole message can be summarized in the following sentence: " Its incidents like these that confirm we we cannot live work and play together, thank god we are divided"

As usual you are looking for cheap excuses as to why you force crimes and illegalities against a whole race.

Has nothing to do with religion lets not get on that gravy train to nowhere, the incident between the 2 boys should have been settled in the school

The TC did spit because of the cross didn't he? How it has nothing to do with religion?

When it suits you, it has nothing to do with anything and it just an incident between boys (which is the case), but then when it suits you in a different way you turn 180 degrees and you make a fight between teenagers and a bruise a huge issue that can excuse the illegal occupation of 1/3rd of Cyprus. You are ridiculous to say the least.

We will see how the police and your judicial system deal with these racist thugs, it will be a test of GC administered human rights, so if you want to show all Cypriots that these incidents will not be tolerated they should be made examples of to deter others.

They will definitely be punished for their action. Be 100% sure about this. Now I am not sure if you will be satisfied with the punishment, since a teenager GC punching and bruising a TC is probably a case for the death penalty for you.

ot in the TRNC, they may happen in the "RoC" but we are not used to hooded gangs going around beating innocent 12yo children.


Do these pictures remind you something:

http://www.hr-action.org/chr/tassos.html

It is from 1996. He didn't spit on your religious symbols, he just wanted to go home. You didn't cause a bruise to him, you beat him to death. This was done not just by some nutcase teenager but by your "police"! And although there are photos and videos of the event nobody was even arrested.
So spare as the crap about your civilized "trnc"
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:59 am

Piratis
Viewpoint, your whole message can be summarized in the following sentence: " Its incidents like these that confirm we we cannot live work and play together, thank god we are divided"


You provide the examples of why its better to stay divided and you blame us, typical GC mentality, feel free to prove me wrong at anytime and provide examples of GC and TC harmony.

As usual you are looking for cheap excuses as to why you force crimes and illegalities against a whole race.


Wanting to feel safe is not a crime.

The TC did spit because of the cross didn't he? How it has nothing to do with religion?


My comment was aimed at not taking the issue into the clash of 2 religions what does a 12yo know about religion. I can assure tou the 12yo boy knows more about football, cars, play station and girls that what the crucifix represents.

When it suits you, it has nothing to do with anything and it just an incident between boys (which is the case), but then when it suits you in a different way you turn 180 degrees and you make a fight between teenagers and a bruise a huge issue that can excuse the illegal occupation of 1/3rd of Cyprus. You are ridiculous to say the least.


Rubbish stick to the issue not the poster, the incident between the 2 boys imo was not important but the events that unfolded after were. Your newspapers blew the whole issue out of proportion to a degree that could inflame and entice waiting emotion to gang up hood themselves and go beat up a group of TC 12 year olds. This does not hold well with the we can all live together in peace theory as even an incident like this can ignite a more explosive situation which could result in not "just a few bruises" but more serious results.

They will definitely be punished for their action. Be 100% sure about this. Now I am not sure if you will be satisfied with the punishment, since a teenager GC punching and bruising a TC is probably a case for the death penalty for you.


We will see as things unfold.

It is from 1996. He didn't spit on your religious symbols, he just wanted to go home. You didn't cause a bruise to him, you beat him to death. This was done not just by some nutcase teenager but by your "police"! And although there are photos and videos of the event nobody was even arrested.
So spare as the crap about your civilized "trnc"


As you can see all mayhem broke loose and these protesters were warned time and time again not to try and cross into a restricted area, if you go head on into a car crash you will surely get hurt. As you can see there are no innocents in those pictures.
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Postby DT. » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:16 am

Firstly, may I correct something. The english school is my old school. In my time (88-93) we were paying (our parents) £5-6,000 per year for this. It is a fact that TC's receive this for free as the government is subsidising them. I'd expect a big thank you first of all before anything else for the free education on the most highly rated school on the island, and then we can move on to everything else.

After we've been thanked, I'd like to express my condemnation to the attack on the student. From what i understand they were students from 3 different secondary schools who in their immature minds were giving payback because a TC had spat on the cross of a GC when they were changing for athletics.

One reaction from this (just to prove the TC's aren;t the only ones to over react is that in another private school they have banned crosses!!! omething which i wholly unconstutional and which acts as a reward to the racist action of the TC student.

Bottom line, one TC was bruised, one GC was insulted and a bunch of us are arguing about it on a forum.

(still pissed off that my parents had to pay and the TC's don't)
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:22 am

DT wrote:Firstly, may I correct something. The english school is my old school. In my time (88-93) we were paying (our parents) £5-6,000 per year for this. It is a fact that TC's receive this for free as the government is subsidising them. I'd expect a big thank you first of all before anything else for the free education on the most highly rated school on the island, and then we can move on to everything else.

After we've been thanked, I'd like to express my condemnation to the attack on the student. From what i understand they were students from 3 different secondary schools who in their immature minds were giving payback because a TC had spat on the cross of a GC when they were changing for athletics.

One reaction from this (just to prove the TC's aren;t the only ones to over react is that in another private school they have banned crosses!!! omething which i wholly unconstutional and which acts as a reward to the racist action of the TC student.

Bottom line, one TC was bruised, one GC was insulted and a bunch of us are arguing about it on a forum.

(still pissed off that my parents had to pay and the TC's don't)


Are you sure its totally free???

I will ask the parents of the TC student I know and get back to you on that.
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Postby DT. » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:25 am

ok VP, but I'm sure.
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Postby sadik » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:34 am

Piratis wrote:Hello Peace. You are not very well informed. First of all only one Turkish Cypriot was slightly injured. Secondly the police did arrest 1 person and 5 more are suspects. Therefore you should be sure that those that acted in this hostile illegal way will be punished.

Where did you get your information about 5 TCs being injured and no arrests made? Are the TC media trying to take advantage of this event?

Such things can happen between people, especially teenagers. Last night 2 other students had placed a self made bomb in front of another school and caused some damage (they were also arrested). In other cases we had serious conflicts when school kids from schools of Limassol and Nicosia met when in field trips to Paphos.

Some teenagers are stupid and just want to attract attention. Such things happen between all people that live together in a place, regardless of their ethnic background. Therefore this incidence should not be misinterpreted.


There is nothing to downplay about this. This is a very serious issue and it can lead to much bigger incidents *overnight*. Sensible GC people should show serious reaction to this incident beyond just condemning. Is this going to happen? I'm not sure, because racism towards TCs in the GC society are generally tolerated.

Fanatics should know that they will *not* be tolerated by the society. If this event is dismissed as a simple disturbance amoung some naughty schoolchildren, I'm affraid that things will get much worse. We need to see how many people will get arrested and how many of them will get punishment. In the previous incidence fanatics got away with it.

Besides, there are about 5000 of TCs paying taxes in the south these days, so its not too much to ask to provide security to just 80 pupils in the only bicommunal school on the island.
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Postby Strahd » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:35 am

Viewpoint wrote:As you can see all mayhem broke loose and these protesters were warned time and time again not to try and cross into a restricted area, if you go head on into a car crash you will surely get hurt. As you can see there are no innocents in those pictures.


VP you have gone too far with these comments. You are a very bad person.
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Postby sadik » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:40 am

DT wrote:Firstly, may I correct something. The english school is my old school. In my time (88-93) we were paying (our parents) £5-6,000 per year for this. It is a fact that TC's receive this for free as the government is subsidising them. I'd expect a big thank you first of all before anything else for the free education on the most highly rated school on the island, and then we can move on to everything else.

After we've been thanked, I'd like to express my condemnation to the attack on the student. From what i understand they were students from 3 different secondary schools who in their immature minds were giving payback because a TC had spat on the cross of a GC when they were changing for athletics.

One reaction from this (just to prove the TC's aren;t the only ones to over react is that in another private school they have banned crosses!!! omething which i wholly unconstutional and which acts as a reward to the racist action of the TC student.

Bottom line, one TC was bruised, one GC was insulted and a bunch of us are arguing about it on a forum.

(still pissed off that my parents had to pay and the TC's don't)


This is not correct. It's not free for TCs any more. The goverment is making a contribution of, I think, 20000 pounds for all the TC pupils. This is divided by the number of TC students, and the rest needs to be paid by the students families. It's free for those who were admitted before. But also, please consider that we as the TCs made no demand that English School should be subsidized for the TCs. It's one of the good will gestures towards the TCs.
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Postby DT. » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:43 am

so what were your "civilians" doing in the retricted zone then?
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Postby DT. » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:48 am

sadik wrote:
DT wrote:Firstly, may I correct something. The english school is my old school. In my time (88-93) we were paying (our parents) £5-6,000 per year for this. It is a fact that TC's receive this for free as the government is subsidising them. I'd expect a big thank you first of all before anything else for the free education on the most highly rated school on the island, and then we can move on to everything else.

After we've been thanked, I'd like to express my condemnation to the attack on the student. From what i understand they were students from 3 different secondary schools who in their immature minds were giving payback because a TC had spat on the cross of a GC when they were changing for athletics.

One reaction from this (just to prove the TC's aren;t the only ones to over react is that in another private school they have banned crosses!!! omething which i wholly unconstutional and which acts as a reward to the racist action of the TC student.

Bottom line, one TC was bruised, one GC was insulted and a bunch of us are arguing about it on a forum.

(still pissed off that my parents had to pay and the TC's don't)


This is not correct. It's not free for TCs any more. The goverment is making a contribution of, I think, 20000 pounds for all the TC pupils. This is divided by the number of TC students, and the rest needs to be paid by the students families. It's free for those who were admitted before. But also, please consider that we as the TCs made no demand that English School should be subsidized for the TCs. It's one of the good will gestures towards the TCs.



I know we subsidise that, some electricity that goes to the occupied areas, pensions to TC's...etc I was wondering though what the TC's do as a goodwill gesture to us? This isn;t me picking a fight I'm sincerely wondering.
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