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Postby alexISS » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:04 am

More from the same article:

Many vices in the world were associated with the Turks:

* In Italian phrases such as "bestemmia come un Turco" (translit "he swears like a Turk") and "puzza come un Turco" (translit "he stinks like a Turk") were often used. One of the most infamous Italian phrase (and one much used by headline writers) was "Mamma li Turchi!" ("Mamma the Turks are coming") this is used to suggest an imminent danger.[1]
* The French called rude behaviour, cruelty and greed "turquerie".
* When the Spanish wanted to make disparaging remarks about a person, he/she was called "turco".
* The English expression "to talk turkey to somebody" means to give a frank opinion to the opposite party.
* The German repertory ranged from "Türkenhund" ("Turkish dog") to "Türkenknecht" ("Turkish farm-hand"), "Kümmeltürke" ("caraway Turk") and "er qualmt wie ein Türke" ("he smokes like a Turk").
* In the Austrian countryside you can still hear today how children are called in from play: "Es ist schon dunkel. Türken kommen. Türken kommen" (translit "It’s already dark, The Turks are coming. The Turks are coming").
* The Greeks sometimes call Turks "vromoshillous" (translit "stinky dog")[9]
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Postby alexISS » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:07 am

More hate anyone? I feel pretty stupid already, if you don't feel stupid too then you ARE stupid
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Postby bg_turk » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:15 am

Whereas Greeks have taught the wold only how to make love, and the arts of "sexo greco". Go check in the Spanish dictionary what it means.
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Postby zan » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:20 am

Not very good research I am afraid...


If you tried harder you would find that the word Turk or to be more precise Turkey as it is spelt today is a derogatory word from the Chinese.
Long before Kemal Attaturk took hold of our identity and made us proud to be Turkish this word was used to describe the nomadic hordes of thieves and looters that gathered in the Russian steppes. The people had no religion and no country but like Gengis Khan they grew and got more organised and concored a large part of the globe. A young Turk meant trouble was on the way and not a people. Mustafa Kemal Attaturk turned the whole thing around and names us by that name so that we are never to be ashamed of being called a Turk, and so we are not.

You will have to do a whole lot better than that to upset me old chum. As a besides I did not start this, I think you need to look more closely at what your Greek chums are posting. Oh! I forgot you guys are blind to that aren't you...................................
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Postby Piratis » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:21 am

More hate anyone?


The partitionists can't have enough of it alex.

Promoting hate between the two communities is what serves their purpose. Do you think people like Zan, Viewpoint and Bg_Turk come to this forum with any intention of discussing? They come here to provoke and to make Greek Cypriots hate them, so later they can go and say "see, they hate us, thats why we should continue occupying their country because they are evil".

Unfortunately this is the official policy of the Turkish government. For example the huge flags created on Pantadaktilos are exactly for this purpose.

And then some idiots, when they see some teenagers that don't like Turks they decide that there is a fault with our education system.

No you idiots, the hate is caused because our country is partly occupied, 1/3rd of our population are refugees, and the Turks do everything in their power to provoke us since hate is what serves their interests.

So don't play their stupid games. I admit I did this too some times but it is a waste of valuable time.

We should concentrate on more important things, such as what the policies of our country should be when dealing with such people.
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Postby alexISS » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:23 am

bg_turk, it's guys like you that remind the world how right Voltaire was...
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Postby zan » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:25 am

Why don't we all agree with Piratis then we can sart handing out the flowers...... :roll:
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Postby alexISS » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:35 am

zan wrote:Not very good research I am afraid...


If you tried harder you would find that the word Turk or to be more precise Turkey as it is spelt today is a derogatory word from the Chinese.
Long before Kemal Attaturk took hold of our identity and made us proud to be Turkish this word was used to describe the nomadic hordes of thieves and looters that gathered in the Russian steppes. The people had no religion and no country but like Gengis Khan they grew and got more organised and concored a large part of the globe. A young Turk meant trouble was on the way and not a people. Mustafa Kemal Attaturk turned the whole thing around and names us by that name so that we are never to be ashamed of being called a Turk, and so we are not.


That's pure fiction. For 400 years the Greeks were Slaves to the TURKS, every document from that era that mentions your people mentions them as TURKS. Τούρκοι, Τουρκιά. Greek folk songs from the 16th century refer to you as Turks, long before Ataturk's time...

I'm afraid people ARE racist towards the Turks, giving the word another meaning does not change that fact. A change of mentality might
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Postby Piratis » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:39 am

If you tried harder you would find that the word Turk or to be more precise Turkey as it is spelt today is a derogatory word from the Chinese.
Long before Kemal Attaturk took hold of our identity and made us proud to be Turkish this word was used to describe the nomadic hordes of thieves and looters that gathered in the Russian steppes. The people had no religion and no country but like Gengis Khan they grew and got more organised and concored a large part of the globe. A young Turk meant trouble was on the way and not a people. Mustafa Kemal Attaturk turned the whole thing around and names us by that name so that we are never to be ashamed of being called a Turk, and so we are not.


So the whole philosophy of Attaturk was not to make his nation better and more civilized, but to just make them feel proud of their barbaric actions?

Thanks zan, this explains a lot. It perfectly explains why some Turks can't see the obvious, and they instead insist that their illegal criminal actions are the right ones. It also explains why Turkey is stuck in the middle ages.
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Postby alexISS » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:40 am

Piratis wrote:
More hate anyone?


The partitionists can't have enough of it alex.

Promoting hate between the two communities is what serves their purpose. Do you think people like Zan, Viewpoint and Bg_Turk come to this forum with any intention of discussing? They come here to provoke and to make Greek Cypriots hate them, so later they can go and say "see, they hate us, thats why we should continue occupying their country because they are evil".

Unfortunately this is the official policy of the Turkish government. For example the huge flags created on Pantadaktilos are exactly for this purpose.

And then some idiots, when they see some teenagers that don't like Turks they decide that there is a fault with our education system.

No you idiots, the hate is caused because our country is partly occupied, 1/3rd of our population are refugees, and the Turks do everything in their power to provoke us since hate is what serves their interests.

So don't play their stupid games. I admit I did this too some times but it is a waste of valuable time.

We should concentrate on more important things, such as what the policies of our country should be when dealing with such people.


They have the whole world against them and yet they fail to realise that their practices cannot have the effect they wish for. Their own people in deep anatolia are illiterate and starving, for what? To save money for the occupying army, what more can anyone say...?
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