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[bg_turk]

either way you look at it, turkey will never join

I agree

I agree as well. Hasan Unal has written a very interesting article regarding the EU process, which he call malicious.

http://www.thenewanatolian.com/opinion-18528.html

Now is the time for people of courage, determination and broad-mindedness. Let's not wreck the ship by insisting on what is not achievable, i.e. full membership of Turkey. Let's conclude a special status with flesh and bones on it that would replace the Customs Union, while keeping trade and economic relations going. But first and foremost, halt this malicious process!

The Turkish train and the Turkish EU membership drive is grinding to a halt before any collision, as the Turkish public no longer supports EU membership.

[Piratis]

The Turkish train and the Turkish EU membership drive is grinding to a halt before any collision, as the Turkish public no longer supports EU membership.

I would say that the Turks saw that they had no way of avoiding the collision and they started to jump out of the train in panic at the very last moment.

Let's conclude a special status with flesh and bones on it that would replace the Customs Union

According to some EU leaders, and obviously to Cyprus and Greece, without the necessary steps Turkey should forget about the "special status" as well.

And don't tell me that some EU members told you otherwise. We are EU members too, so better listen to what we say about this before you waste your time again. EU will not upgrade her relationship with Turkey until Turkey stops acting in hostile and aggressive way against EU members.

[Viewpoint]

thats true

but you failed to answer the question

how on earth do you read hate in my post, when I am willing to help you get absorbed?

You words clearly reveal you are a person with hate and revenge in your heart and mind, and you banding about go join Turkey as if its something we should fear and avoid is ridiculous and you look like a fool. If that's what my community wants then that's what we will do..you have no say in the matter and your attitude is only one of hate and ignorance, if you want to help go persuade your ugly Turk hater leader to think like you do as he seems to have completely different way of looking at things as do most of your community.

If you think you have any influence whatsoever organise big meetings and shout out you want the north to join Turkey, go on national TV and proclaim the same, wriye articles in your newspapers that TCs have the right to join Turkey....you would be laughed off the stage and even not allowed freedom of speech just like Vanhugen and De Soto prior to the referendum, democracy only when it suits GCs.

[pitsilos]

how the hell can i have hate and revenge in my heart and mind when i am accomodating you. you are some twisted dude.

and you don't see see anything wrong with ethnically cleansing 200,000 people form their homes with only a shirt on their back. and you go further by trying to justify all the illegalities like selling properties to this very day. you use the illegalities like a carrot, and then you start making threats about a disinterested turkey. well between you, me and the goalpost, fuck turkey. yes i am a racist by your little instruction manual. but what you fail to see is, its my democratic right to chose.

do everyone a favour and drop the preaching of hate and morality. its not you.

ps no i don't think i am a fool when i say the thought of the unofficial becoming official scares the living daylights out of you. and so far you have done a horrible job in convincing me otherwise.

vp, i mean, i know its early early in morning, when i say parading, i am talking in the north. you know to rally the troops.

[Viewpoint]

pitsilos

how the hell can i have hate and revenge in my heart and mind when i am accomodating you. you are some twisted dude.

I can tell when someone really means what they say and when they are just bullshitting. You are a Turk hater.

and you don't see see anything wrong with ethnically cleansing 200,000 people form their homes with only a shirt on their back. and you go further by trying to justify all the illegalities like selling properties to this very day. you use the illegalities like a carrot, and then you start making threats about a disinterested turkey. well between you, me and the goalpost, fuck turkey. yes i am a racist by your little instruction manual. but what you fail to see is, its my democratic right to chose.

You at least admit you are a racist and a racist of your calibre cannot have a balanced view. Have you also lost land in the north meaning millions of Cyprus pounds? is that why you are so bitter and twisted and hate us so much?

You should give a fuck about Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots as it is us you have to negotiate with if you want any sort of progress with the Cyprus issue.

If i didnt care about the refugess I would not state many times that they should be allowed to return or given full compensation where this is not possible.

ps no i don't think i am a fool when i say the thought of the unofficial becoming official scares the living daylights out of you. and so far you have done a horrible job in convincing me otherwise

Im not trying to convince you about anything Im just expressing my viewpoint take it or leave it doenst really matter. It just gives an insight into the thoughts of an average TCs and your views do the same for me.



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[pitsilos]

vp said

I can tell when someone really means what they say and when they are just bullshitting. You are a Turk hater.

and i think someones lift doesn't reach the top floor.

pitsilos said

and you don't see see anything wrong with ethnically cleansing 200,000 people form their homes with only a shirt on their back. and you go further by trying to justify all the illegalities like selling properties to this very day. you use the illegalities like a carrot, and then you start making threats about a disinterested turkey. well between you, me and the goalpost, fuck turkey. yes i am a racist by your little instruction manual. but what you fail to see is, its my democratic right to chose.

vp said

You at least admit you are a racist and a racist of your calibre cannot have a balanced view. Have you also lost land in the north meaning millions of Cyprus pounds? is that why you are so bitter and twisted and hate us so much?

now let me get this straight, i am a racist for condemning ethnic cleansing and exercing my democratic rights. now thats priceless.
and no vp i do not own land in the north, i am from limassol.

vp said

You should give a fuck about Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots as it is us you have to negotiate with if you want any sort of progress with the Cyprus issue.

no, not really. I will when you guys want a deal. if you don't i can live with myself knowing you have become a province

vp said

If i didnt care about the refugess I would not state many times that they should be allowed to return or given full compensation where this is not possible.

and if my grandma had a dick i will call her grandpa.

[bg_turk]

According to some EU leaders, and obviously to Cyprus and Greece, without the necessary steps Turkey should forget about the "special status" as well.

Turkey had this special status far before Cyprus even became a member. Currently Turkey enjoys close economic ties with Germany, many Eastern european countries, and even Greece (Greek banking sector is expanding into the TUrkish market). You are telling me that Germany and the other countries, whose business with Turkey is worth billions of dollars, will sacrifice all of this, just to accomodate the whims of Papadolpulos and Greek Cypriot rejectionism?

[alexISS]

Turkey had this special status far before Cyprus even became a member.

And look where we are today, Cyprus is a member and Turkey still has the same "special status"... That must be pissing you off...

Currently Turkey enjoys close economic ties with Germany, many Eastern european countries, and even Greece (Greek banking sector is expanding into the TUrkish market). You are telling me that Germany and the other countries, whose business with Turkey is worth billions of dollars, will sacrifice all of this, just to accomodate the whims of Papadolpulos and Greek Cypriot rejectionism?

Germany and Greece can have business with Turkey as individual countries, the EU has nothing to do with that. Turkey will be as privileged as North Korea if a member state wants it to

[bg_turk]

And look where we are today, Cyprus is a member and Turkey still has the same "special status"... That must be pissing you off...

Are you always this confrontational? Southern Cyprus being a member does not really affect anything in the big scheme of things. With or without it Turkey would not have become a member due to the geopolitical situation mainly due to French opposition.

What pisses you off probably is that even as a member Cyprus still cannot enforce any of its demands.

Germany and Greece can have business with Turkey as individual countries, the EU has nothing to do with that.

How ignorant a statement is this? The German and Greek commercial relations with the EU are precisely withing the context of Turkey's customs union with the EU.

What happened to the allempires forum by the way? Is it down?

[miltiades]

BIG What ?? Wrote ::
""" Southern Cyprus being a member does not really affect anything in the big scheme of things. """

Who the fuck is Southern Cyprus prick ?? 25 members of the EU , NONE IS CALLED SOUTHERN CYPRUS.
Get it in your head , it is called f..ng CYPRUS .