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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:59 am

If Turkey is unwilling to make the steps, then the EU accession of Turkey should be terminated asap, so Turkey can suffer a huge damage as a consequence.


Isnt this a slaughter the golden egg laying goose policy, the EU will over time give the GCs the chance to extract their demands from Turkey yet they insist that Turkeys departure form EU accession will not have negative repercussion on their goals. Anyone who claims this is an idiot and very short sighted, a disinterested Turkey even with a worsening economy signals the end of any hope of reuniting and a hardening of views towards cementing partition by leaving things as they are. Who will the GCs negotiate with then? themselves :lol:
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Postby alexISS » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:18 am

Viewpoint wrote:
If Turkey is unwilling to make the steps, then the EU accession of Turkey should be terminated asap, so Turkey can suffer a huge damage as a consequence.


Isnt this a slaughter the golden egg laying goose policy, the EU will over time give the GCs the chance to extract their demands from Turkey yet they insist that Turkeys departure form EU accession will not have negative repercussion on their goals. Anyone who claims this is an idiot and very short sighted, a disinterested Turkey even with a worsening economy signals the end of any hope of reuniting and a hardening of views towards cementing partition by leaving things as they are. Who will the GCs negotiate with then? themselves :lol:


A disinterested Turkey would still be a country that occupies EU territory, only this time she would be unwilling to withdraw from that territory...
Entry or no entry, anyone who claims that Turkey can afford occupying northern Cyprus forever is not a short sighted idiot but a blind idiot.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:29 am

alexISS wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
If Turkey is unwilling to make the steps, then the EU accession of Turkey should be terminated asap, so Turkey can suffer a huge damage as a consequence.


Isnt this a slaughter the golden egg laying goose policy, the EU will over time give the GCs the chance to extract their demands from Turkey yet they insist that Turkeys departure form EU accession will not have negative repercussion on their goals. Anyone who claims this is an idiot and very short sighted, a disinterested Turkey even with a worsening economy signals the end of any hope of reuniting and a hardening of views towards cementing partition by leaving things as they are. Who will the GCs negotiate with then? themselves :lol:


A disinterested Turkey would still be a country that occupies EU territory, only this time she would be unwilling to withdraw from that territory...
Entry or no entry, anyone who claims that Turkey can afford occupying northern Cyprus forever is not a short sighted idiot but a blind idiot.


Its been 32 years and looks to be a lot longer, not as short sighted or as blind as you wish to think. EU territory you maybe, does that mean they will put in place an army they don't have and come to your rescue :lol: please save us all this crap and admit that a disinterested Turkey would mean the end of the road for a united island.
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Postby debatez » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:44 am

Turkey is proving way way to diffufult and problematic in thier accession process, they obviously do not desrve to be in the EU and thier stubborness and typical pain in the ass behaivour is not going to help anyone. . i mean at a time when they should be as flexible as we are requesting about the Cyprus Prob, since the EU accession largely depends on it but no , , they still continue to be stubborn as hell. . to hell with them the EU and Turkey dont mix
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Postby pitsilos » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:48 am

disinterested Turkey would mean the end of the road for a united island.


so why do you care so much?...you ain't afraid of being a turkish province are you? :lol:

or is it because it would mean the end of the EU road for you.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:54 am

debatez wrote:Turkey is proving way way to diffufult and problematic in thier accession process, they obviously do not desrve to be in the EU and thier stubborness and typical pain in the ass behaivour is not going to help anyone. . i mean at a time when they should be as flexible as we are requesting about the Cyprus Prob, since the EU accession largely depends on it but no , , they still continue to be stubborn as hell. . to hell with them the EU and Turkey dont mix


Exactly what points are you being flexible about, please supply details?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:56 am

pitsilos wrote:
disinterested Turkey would mean the end of the road for a united island.


so why do you care so much?...you ain't afraid of being a turkish province are you? :lol:

or is it because it would mean the end of the EU road for you.


No im not afraid of Turkey unlike you, I pointing out the dangers to your guys.
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Postby alexISS » Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:10 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Its been 32 years and looks to be a lot longer, not as short sighted or as blind as you wish to think. EU territory you maybe, does that mean they will put in place an army they don't have and come to your rescue :lol: please save us all this crap and admit that a disinterested Turkey would mean the end of the road for a united island.


I know it's incompatible with your mentality, but try to understand that armies don't solve all problems. Turkey depends on the EU in all aspects, even as a non member
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Postby DT. » Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:23 pm

If a disinterested turkey stops all attempts to re-unify the island then the biggest losers will be the TC's.

You will be completely integrated with Turkey and will be treated with same care as one of turkeys eastern asian provinces. You will have no id other than a turkish one, you will never be a part of the EU, your GDP/capita will decrease again, you will be overrun with even more settlers from anatolia and the army will control more of your life than they do now. You will be a part of an asian country with all the pro's and con's that surround that.

Whereas the GC's....well thing won't change much. We'll still be telling the world you've occupied EU land and we will still be the official and legal government of cyprus.

SO give the whole "if you veto turkey you lose your biggest trump card" a rest. If we veto turkey you become the losers, we stay as we are.
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Postby alexISS » Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:31 pm

DT wrote:You will be a part of an asian country with all the pro's and con's that surround that.


And I don't want to think of the consequences they will face should they try to break away after they realize what their future will be like
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