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If as I say it was only 1 example then yes but if there are 2 examples and no more TC players although they are offered places reject then something is wrong. Don't close your eyes to what goes on around you. I watched them train and he was just as good even better than most of the Gc players there, he was on the bench week after week until he just gave up.

Its you that should be questioning the treatment of Tc players in the south not trying to cover up for the behaviour of clubs whos actions are discriminative and demoralizing. That is not the way to build a mixed team and only goes to show that we cannot even build a joint football team together let alone a country.

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ahem...


The information that Louroudjina football club expressed the intention to participate in Cyprus Football Associations league caused great reactions in the occupied areas of Cyprus
Under the front-page banner title Is the Sports Ministry asleep? and What is happening at Louroudjina, the castle of the Republican Turkish Party (CTP)? Turkish Cypriot daily CUMHURIYET newspaper (19.04.06) refers to the information published in the Turkish and Turkish Cypriot press regarding the intention expressed by the football club of occupied Louroudjina village to participate in the Cyprus Football Association´s (CFA) league.
Invoking information published in Turkish MILLIYET newspaper, CUMHURIYET writes that the above-mentioned football team has already filed an application to play in the second division of CFA. It reminds that a player of Louroudjina, named Ali Imam had been transferred to Greek Cypriot Nea Salamina Famagusta football team. Then the team of Louroudjina applied to the so-called Turkish Cypriot Football Federation and asked for the punishment of Ali Imam or in case he returned to the occupied areas of Cyprus to play only in their team. Imam played 2-3 months in Nea Salamina and returned to the occupied areas where he agreed to play in the team of Kondea village, where he was born. Louroudjina asked from the federation to correct the situation, but the federation gave its permission to Imam to play in Kondea, notes the paper adding that for this reason the team of Louroudjina filed an application to participate in the Greek Cypriot sides second division.

Meanwhile, under the title Dangerous game, Turkish Cypriot daily KIBRIS newspaper (19.04.06) reports that the efforts launched by Louroudjina to participate in the CFAs second division caused a great repercussion in the occupied part of the Island.

Speaking at a press conference yesterday, the chairman of the so-called Turkish Cypriot Football Federation, Niyazi Okutan said that no official application had been made to them until now by Louroudjina and added that they do not see positively the fact that Louroudjina discussed the issue with CFA. He said that they could not accept the demand of Louroudjina, alleging that the 1960 agreements provided for the two communities to have separate football federations and organize separate leagues. He noted that they could give permission to a player as individual to play in the Greek Cypriot league and reiterated that they do not see positively the participation of Turkish Cypriot teams in those leagues.

Furthermore, the self-styled Minister of Youth and Sports of the TRNC (breakaway regime in the occupied areas of the Republic of Cyprus), Ozkan Yorgancioglu said that Louroudjina had not officially applied to them in order to play in the CFAs league and added that he did not believe that such a development could take place. He noted that in case a football team behaved as if the Turkish Cypriot Federation does not exist and became a member of the Greek Cypriot federation, their political gains would be taken backwards. It is not possible for us to accept such a thing, he said and added, inter alia, the following. We do not believe that such a thing could happen. And we do not wish it to happen. We are discussing the issue with the Louroudjina club.

KIBRIS reports also that in statements on the issue, the former Turkish Cypriot leader, Rauf Denktas said that for him it is an unthinkable and unacceptable approach the young people to be detached from the Turkish Cypriot Federation and appeal to the Greek Cypriot side, because this or that happened. In such a way they support the approach of the Greek Cypriots which provides for our being scattered slowly slowly. I wish they do not proceed with the application which has been made orally and they stop this mistake, he said.

Finally, the chairman of Louroudjina Club, Mr Emin Ozyalcin, said that he did not want to state anything on the issue at this stage and added that they will issue a written statement after they evaluate the situation with the clubs administrative board. This morning Mr Ozyalcin will be visiting Mr Yorgancioglu, notes KIBRIS.

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So? it was all hype, no official application was made, it was used as a tool to threaten the TC Football federation over some issues they had with the club in question..

Lets just agree that we are unable to form a bi-communal team like you suggested, this is just another typical example of why we "Cypriots" will never reunite. The sooner we all come to terms with it the better it will be for everyone.

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Oh I don't know about that, just because we are discussing something doesn't mean we don't like each other.

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Oh I don't know about that, just because we are discussing something doesn't we don't like each other.

Nothing to do with like, Gcs on an individual basis are very nice people but their political motives are very suspect indeed, their current leadership does them no favors in the reconciliation stakes and if you asked TCs about supporting your leader as the first President of a united Cyprus they would rather go jump of a cliff.

We all have to grow up, this island is big enough for everyone, if we cant share it mixed together which keep proving time and time again then we should find a way to share it side by side as we do today but officially.

Most Tcs have no problems living side by side with individuals GCs and I am sure they would get on real well the only problem is TCs do not want to put their future in the hands of GCs, so imho we should have 2 sides and "Cypriots can choose where they wish to live but at the same time would have to accept the administration of the TCs or GCs.

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as long as a central government which was proportionally represented superceded the 2 sides on matters of foreign affairs and economy,

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as long as a central government which was proportionally represented superceded the 2 sides on matters of foreign affairs and economy,

Thats where we run into problems how will you address the balance of the 2 sides?

[DT.]

how can one person's vote weigh more than anothers?

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How can 1 vote be worth 60 look at the EU my friend.

[DT.]

FOr one or two critical decisions only. The voting system in the EU allows the member states to carry on day to day business on a proportional basis. The European parliament is based on proportional representation.