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If we are all Cypriots.......

Postby Klik » Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:21 pm

...why don't we all speak Greek, the most dominant language in the island since its history?

The answer is simple, which denies my question, but I want to see what you think.
Why didn't non-Cypriots that settled here over the years learned the language of Cyprus, which is Greek, why wasn't a new language created...?
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Postby cypezokyli » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:01 pm

1. do you think that all countries (should) have only one language ? !!!! who told you that ?

2. did you ever speak with an older tc ?
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Postby andri_cy » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:16 am

Older Tcs always spoke Greek. They also spoke Turkish in their homes, like a lot of say Greeks do when they move to the US or the UK. The Cypriot language, is not 100% pure Greek. We have Turkish as well as Italian and English words to go alongside with the Greek. It IS predominantly Greek, but I would consider it a "new" language which is a mix between the old inhabitants and the settlers that came over throughout the centuries.
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Postby Klik » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:19 pm

I agree that the language we speak has words from different languages but which doesn't?

99% of all scientific words etc are of Greek origin, in most languages! Does that mean that they should say that they speak Greek?

We speak Greek, with a modified Homeric(that time...) dialect. That's Greek to almost everyone who understands what a language is!

If you go to the USA, you speak English, the US language...
If you go to the UK, you speak English....
If you go to Italy, you speak Italian
If you go to France, French
Germany/German...
Spain/Spanish

You don't call Spanish or Chinese a national language of the USA because those that speak it are around 15% of the population! They speak English in an English-speaking country.

Cyprus has a modified Greek dialect, which is still part of the Greek language, despite having a lot of foreign words.
Why on a forum called Cyprus-Forum don't we all speak the Cypriot language, Greek, and why isn't there just but a small sector of foreign language chat?

The previous generations of Turks that spoken Greek, were actually Cypriots in the past, that pay the consequences of their ancestors' mistakes and cowardness... It's expected to speak Greek for them. But the newer generations do not speak Greek because simply, they are not Cypriot, despite selling all that bull$hit propaganda crap (eg.Turkish "cypriots")
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:29 pm

So those "Cypriots" who do not speak Greek are not Cypriots of any kind Greek or Turkish? So if yo have a "Cypriot" of Greek origin who cant speak Greek is he not a Cypriot either?
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Postby Klik » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:01 pm

What you just wrote is quite crap... When you realise what you wrote you'll laugh as well...

Also, how come EVERY official minority in Cyprus that lives permanently speaks Greek except the "Cypriots" of Turkish origin? Armenians, Russiopontians, Maronites etc, all speak Greek... It's quite hard having to excuse the unexcusable isn't it? Or just simply understand and state that you are not Cypriots but just human pieces of Turkish propaganda... Turkey wanted to establish a Turkish population in Cyprus ever since 1570. Well, mission accomplished....
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:12 pm

Klik wrote:I agree that the language we speak has words from different languages but which doesn't?

99% of all scientific words etc are of Greek origin, in most languages! Does that mean that they should say that they speak Greek?

We speak Greek, with a modified Homeric(that time...) dialect. That's Greek to almost everyone who understands what a language is!

If you go to the USA, you speak English, the US language...
If you go to the UK, you speak English....
If you go to Italy, you speak Italian
If you go to France, French
Germany/German...
Spain/Spanish

You don't call Spanish or Chinese a national language of the USA because those that speak it are around 15% of the population! They speak English in an English-speaking country.

Cyprus has a modified Greek dialect, which is still part of the Greek language, despite having a lot of foreign words.
Why on a forum called Cyprus-Forum don't we all speak the Cypriot language, Greek, and why isn't there just but a small sector of foreign language chat?

The previous generations of Turks that spoken Greek, were actually Cypriots in the past, that pay the consequences of their ancestors' mistakes and cowardness... It's expected to speak Greek for them. But the newer generations do not speak Greek because simply, they are not Cypriot, despite selling all that bull$hit propaganda crap (eg.Turkish "cypriots")


very clever...
let me inform you about your idea of "language purity"

in germany
Several other minority groups, officially recognized and their languages protected, also live in Germany. For more than 1,000 years, the Sorbs, a Slavic nationality, have lived as an ethnic minority in Brandenburg and Saxony. As of 1993, there were about 120,000 Sorbs in Germany. In addition, about 60,000 Danish speakers live in Schleswig-Holstein, a reminder of the area's Danish past; and about 12,000 speakers of the Frisian language live on the Frisian Islands and on the northwestern coast.

in spain , they dont only speak spanish. the basque language is one of the oldest in the world. and not only : Catalan, regarded as the native language of Catalonia, is one of the three official languages of the region as established in the Catalan Statute of Autonomy [2]. The others are Castilian Spanish, which is an official language throughout Spain, and Aranese.

if france if you go to corsica they claim to speak corsican.

in italy, in south tyrol they speak german (they also have other language minorities there )

so once again , before you make such claims it would be good to study a bit. just make a google search of the kind "language minorities in ...." even the wiki which is not consider scientific, can give some basic info :wink:

and how about other countries you forgot ?
like belgium ?
or switzerland ?
or finland ?
or if you want to further :
how about china ?
and almost the whole of africa..
and almost all ex-soviet states....

:roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Klik » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:41 pm

Switzerland?They almost all speak German and French, and some minorities also speak Italian and some other accents... Point? They didn't conduct a language minority by force, but that's going onto another deep subject...

The USA and the UK are the most multicultural countries in the world, and all of their inhabitants, barring ethnicity speaks the national language, English...

In Belgium they speak French and Flemmish!

Claims or not, Corsicans speak the same language as the rest of France...

Turks in Cyprus are the only ones that want to enforce a language into a country! Heck, not even the Mexicans in the USA don't act like that there, and the US authorities say that they have problems with them!

I never said anything about language purity, all I said was that countries have only one language, unless they are split in HALF or equally... And since the Ottoman settlers are not compatriots of mine, not even on paper, the Turkish minority in Cyprus is less than a sixth of the Cypriots... Therefore, Turkish language cannot be designed as official in Cyprus, and therefore the sole language in Cyprus is Greek, with English as second... Majority always wins, and the Ottomans didn't manage to achieve this majority in Cyprus. People of Greek origin don't die easily!
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:47 pm

you are beyond cure.... :roll:

but i am still wondering who put such ideas in your head ....
are you part in any "youth" organisation ?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:29 pm

Klik wrote:What you just wrote is quite crap... When you realise what you wrote you'll laugh as well...

Also, how come EVERY official minority in Cyprus that lives permanently speaks Greek except the "Cypriots" of Turkish origin? Armenians, Russiopontians, Maronites etc, all speak Greek... It's quite hard having to excuse the unexcusable isn't it? Or just simply understand and state that you are not Cypriots but just human pieces of Turkish propaganda... Turkey wanted to establish a Turkish population in Cyprus ever since 1570. Well, mission accomplished....


and dont you just hate it :P those minorities never ruled Cyprus we did so stick that in your pipe, Turkish is and official language so you shoudl start to take lessons :lol:
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