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[turkkan]

youre comments are worthless when instead of criticising klik for his obvious racist views, you ask him retarded questions a 5 year old knows the answers to, and instead only choose to reply to mrfromng and call him a bigot and essentially tell him to leave the island or not come back.

[bg_turk]

Kifeas, it would be interesting to hear your analysis of how this incident ties to your multicultural and "the people of Cyprus (irrespective of “ethnic” background and /or linguistic differences,) have worked together and watered with their sweat the same (each others) fields for centuries now and under the same hot and burning Cypriot sun" argument?

[Kifeas]

youre comments are worthless when instead of criticising klik for his obvious racist views, you ask him retarded questions a 5 year old knows the answers to, and instead only choose to reply to mrfromng and call him a bigot and essentially tell him to leave the island or not come back.

I see no point in rushing to criticise someone before I get the necessary clarifications as to what he meant with what he wrote, and before I get to know and understand what his true ideas and thoughts are on certain issues, as they seem to be confused and confusing, that is why I made the questions I did.

Turkkan, you may fuck off!

[humanist]

Mr Fromng

beacuse in a free world and a democratic state one ought to be able to express their beliefs ideas and values openly and freely. if you live in Britain you would know that one can wear the crucifix, thier buddha or any other religious symbol they wish to wear. If I do not find it insulting if a Muslim wears their religious symbol around their neck or have tatoo on the back why do you find the crucifix insulting?

As far as Unification I am 38 years old and for as long as I live I will advacate for a Unified Cyprus becuase I believe in human rights of all people and what is happeniing in Cyprus it is violation of human rights ........ this may be a little too much for you to understand I am not going to elabarate further on my statement ....... if you are clever enought you will see the meaning of it in full as it is meant

[Kifeas]

Kifeas, it would be interesting to hear your analysis of how this incident ties to your multicultural and "the people of Cyprus (irrespective of “ethnic” background and /or linguistic differences,) have worked together and watered with their sweat the same (each others) fields for centuries now and under the same hot and burning Cypriot sun" argument?

Bg_turk, I have no reason to waste my time providing any analysis to you, on anything! I know where you come from and what you aim -your above idiotic irony and sarcasm offer more than enough evidence, therefore you may also fuck off!

You may talk about Turkey -your beloved country- and it's very democratic culture, in which no Turk ever attacked and beat or killed a single Kurd -or they other way around, no grey wolf ever attacked, beat and even killed a leftist or a Christian, no kemalist fanatic ever attacked and beat an islamist -or the other way around; and the whole country lives in absolute peace, harmony and unity, as the ultimate prototype country of tolerance, internal peace and respect of differences among all its citizens.

Once more, you may fuck off!

[Klik]

An article concerning an incident in my school caused a lot of unrest and chaos there...

It happened on November 7th, and was published and known to the whole school(including teachers!!!!) yesterday!

First: We were protesting about the "punishment" the Turkish student got(nothing)

Second: A mob of high school students(around 25) came into my school and beat up a lot Turkish students during our second break, because of the incident that happened on November 7th. A large portion of the school, mostly my age(6th form) were chasing the high school kids(who were our age as well) even outside the school...

"Point is, nobody can touch any member of my school in my school, with me inside"

What those kids did in my school was something that 80% of the Cypriot youth would want to do...

Klik, three questions, (a) what do you mean by your last sentence, (b) do the TC students in your school exclusivelly identify themselves as “Turks” and (c) what do you mean you were protesting about the “punishment” the TC student got?

a) It's quite clear... If you asked all Cypriots about the incident, and wanted them to respond honestly, they'd say that they supported what happened. They do not live everyday with them, they do not know any of them, they just carry 10-15 years of anti-Turk propaganda(probably rightfully) and they reacted on the article, thinking that it was true(most of the facts were correct, except the spitting part. It was on the boy's leg, not on the cross...) Cypriots live to see Turks die... It's just like that.

b) It's not a general opinion, each of them varies. All I can say, which applies to all of them, is that if there's a war between Turkey and Cyprus, they will definetely not going to support Cyprus, but with the Turkish army, they'll try to kill the real Cypriots, not the turkopropagandic ones they are acting to be.

c) If there was no raid by those people yesterday, over half of the school would go on protest about the situation. That it was hidden, published by the media a long later. The school is overly protecting the Turks in the school, and it's obvious. We would protest for equality, no special treatments etc... It didn't occur as we were all(except some that knew it beforehands) stunned by the attack, and there was no point in protesting for such a thing after that.

[relatino]

This interesting thread made me wonder: Will muslims and no-muslims will ever co-exist in peace? Can muslims integrate in host cultures? Do they respect another customs as much as they expect theirs to be respected from others? Is there any country where muslims and no muslims live along without any kind of friction? If there is a Third World War will it be fought between the West and the muslim world? Any thoughts?

[souroul]

why do the turks come to our schools anyway

[Klik]

This interesting thread made me wonder: Will muslims and no-muslims will ever co-exist in peace? Can muslims integrate in host cultures? Do they respect another customs as much as they expect theirs to be respected from others? Is there any country where muslims and no muslims live along without any kind of friction? If there is a Third World War will it be fought between the West and the muslim world? Any thoughts?

Now you are openning a much different issue(indirectly concerns the issue)

Turks seem to have a much different way of life than Muslims in general.

In the UK, Muslims are declaring that they'll conquer it and make the whole Brit islands into Muslim. Same in France, Spain(who fortunately have escaped 900 years of Muslim occupation), Germany etc... And you can see almost all Arab Muslims saying that they want to see the USA destructed...

Well, these countries are the leaders, and the only people as a group causing trouble to them are some Muslim minority groups(organised).

In Cyprus it's quite different. We are still under occupation by Turkey, and there are no religion organisations against Cyprus etc... So, it's a much bigger issue than Cyprus, and shouldn't belong to the Cyprus issue imo

[relatino]

This interesting thread made me wonder: Will muslims and no-muslims will ever co-exist in peace? Can muslims integrate in host cultures? Do they respect another customs as much as they expect theirs to be respected from others? Is there any country where muslims and no muslims live along without any kind of friction? If there is a Third World War will it be fought between the West and the muslim world? Any thoughts?

Now you are openning a much different issue(indirectly concerns the issue)

Turks seem to have a much different way of life than Muslims in general.

In the UK, Muslims are declaring that they'll conquer it and make the whole Brit islands into Muslim. Same in France, Spain(who fortunately have escaped 900 years of Muslim occupation), Germany etc... And you can see almost all Arab Muslims saying that they want to see the USA destructed...

Well, these countries are the leaders, and the only people as a group causing trouble to them are some Muslim minority groups(organised).

In Cyprus it's quite different. We are still under occupation by Turkey, and there are no religion organisations against Cyprus etc... So, it's a much bigger issue than Cyprus, and shouldn't belong to the Cyprus issue imo

Well yeah, you are right in some way. But since all this mess started since a kid didn't like the other one wearing a cross I was wondering how much religion had to do with it or is it was simply an excuse. By the way, do you know if the parents of this kid are TCs or turkish settlers? Are TCs and Turks secular to the same degree or are TCs even more open minded?