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[Klik]

Viewpoint, that's pure crap about the religious symbols

Here's the rule copied from the Code of Conduct:
Under "All English School students have the following Responsibilities:
To refrain from the display or use of symbol that are intented or liable to be offensive to others"

The symbols concerned are the USSR flag, Hitler's Germany flag, the devil signs etc
Religion is not prohibited at the English School, but yet not encouraged

But when religious stuff are used for bad purpose, then they the person doing that is in trouble.

The only fact that the journalist of Simerini wrote was that he spat on his cross. The Turk spat on the Cypriot on his foot, for wearing a cross. The cross was the "reason" for spitting, it was not the target.

And I know from first hand that the specific journalist from Simerini is not considered to be a good one etc... He just tried to mess things up, and encourages some hot-headed idiots to come to my school and act like apes...

[Viewpoint]

Klik

Viewpoint, that's pure crap about the religious symbols

Here's the rule copied from the Code of Conduct:
Under "All English School students have the following Responsibilities:
To refrain from the display or use of symbol that are intented or liable to be offensive to others"

Maybe the crucifix is offensive to me or anyone else, of another religion, have you thought about that? the rule above is open to interpretation and does not specify exactly which symbols are considered offensive.

The headmaster clarified the situation as follows;

There was a very minor incident between two pupils, where a Turkish Cypriot pupil saw a Greek Cypriot pupil was wearing a crucifix, and because this was not natural for him, he reacted and spat on the floor.

The symbols concerned are the USSR flag, Hitler's Germany flag, the devil signs etc
Religion is not prohibited at the English School, but yet not encouraged

But when religious stuff are used for bad purpose, then they the person doing that is in trouble.

Maybe he was using the crucifix in a bad way which offended the Turkish Cypriot student, I believe you go to that school there appears to be a lot of emotion and upset frantic statements trying to cover up the whole incident. The school is trying to play down the incident as I believe their is already a bad atmosphere amongst GC students that TC students get preferential treatment is that right and does it have anything to do with this incident? I also heard the boys in masks were from your school that's why they hid the faces and they knew exactly who to beat up.

[Klik]

Yes the rules are really vague But it was clarified that it was not concerning religious symbols(unless you are a satanist apparently)

I know a student that was close to the incident. I said what happened in a previous thread. All I can say is that the Turkish student acted for himself, and not behalf of his community, and some people didn't understand that. It's not right to single out a whole community for an irrational 12-year old...

Next Wednesday at 6:30 there will be a full clarification and answering to questions about the whole Code of Conduct, which includes the rule I posted...

If religion was restricted, I can assure you that there would have been great problems inside the school. Religion is the most personal thing in someone's life, and no one has the right to tell you what to do about it(unless you totally misbehave)

Unfortunately, stupidity runs in most people's veins... It's not something that we can change. And with a little portion of brainwashing, a person is doomed to be ignorant.

[raymanuva]

Personally i dont mind if there is a guy sitting next to me with religious symbols all over him, or a sikh with a biggest turban on earth... as long as they keep quiyet and never ever mention anything from their religion then its completely fine by me. A good friend of mine is muslim and we never ever go on religious talk, ever.

So the only symbol which should be prohibited is Nazi Swastika.

[stuballstu]

Klik

Do you think that the punishment that the Turkish Cypriot boy received merited what he done wrong?

[bg_turk]

Cypriot youth indeed have very interesting ways of socialising with each other, ones that include wearing black masks and beating each other up.

[Klik]

stuballstu, the punishment would have been worse if the Cypriot first former who had the cross had said anythig to the Turk about an Islamic symbol. That's 1000% certain, as we have some idiots running our school feeling that over-protectionism will benefit all of us. They make 90 people happy and cause disconent and unrest to around 850... Not a very good balance I say

Someone almost got suspended for removing a poster! Another got suspended for jumping through a window(he wrecked a car's roof but okay, no physical damage)

We were not allowed to celebrate the Cyprus Independence Day in a regular manner. There is a lot of suspicion and discontent amongst students in the school, and it's due to the school's approach.
The matter with the 12-year olds was just minimal, and typical if you ask me. The school made the wrong choice in dealing with it(let it go unpunished because the Turkish student said that he "regretted doing it"...) They told us that the matter was closed on November 8th, and 2 weeks later it's on a newspaper, indicating that the matter was not over. I give some blame to the school for the raid yesterday, but it's true that the media is attacking the school at times. Still, had the school dealt with it in a better way, and made an announcement of a kind right after discovering the article, a lot of damage and bad publicity would have been saved.

[stuballstu]

stuballstu, the punishment would have been worse if the Cypriot first former who had the cross had said anythig to the Turk about an Islamic symbol. That's 1000% certain, as we have some idiots running our school feeling that over-protectionism will benefit all of us. They make 90 people happy and cause disconent and unrest to around 850... Not a very good balance I say

Someone almost got suspended for removing a poster! Another got suspended for jumping through a window(he wrecked a car's roof but okay, no physical damage)

We were not allowed to celebrate the Cyprus Independence Day in a regular manner. There is a lot of suspicion and discontent amongst students in the school, and it's due to the school's approach.
The matter with the 12-year olds was just minimal, and typical if you ask me. The school made the wrong choice in dealing with it(let it go unpunished because the Turkish student said that he "regretted doing it"...) They told us that the matter was closed on November 8th, and 2 weeks later it's on a newspaper, indicating that the matter was not over. I give some blame to the school for the raid yesterday, but it's true that the media is attacking the school at times. Still, had the school dealt with it in a better way, and made an announcement of a kind right after discovering the article, a lot of damage and bad publicity would have been saved.

Klik

The school are in an impossible situation. If they had suspended or indeed expelled the Turkish pupil it just makes a bad situation worse. If the GC boy and his family thought the punishment was sufficient than that should have been the end of the matter. If the TC boy was expelled it does not teach him anything and would only fuel his anti Christian feelings, this way the school have the opportunity to teach religious tolerance and not loose a young impressionable boy to religious hatred. The boy made a mistake, which was of a serious nature, and regretted it. That does not mean he should get off scott free but giving a 12 year old a reason to hate another religion is a better way of dealing with it.

The school did the right thing by trying to deal with it "in house" as since it has been leaked to the press the whole thing has been sensationalised and you now will get all the anti Turkish and anti Greek Cypriot nutters making comment on something which quite frankly is about nothing.

If you look at the UK now some schools are in an untenable position. Some have taken a decision not to allow Christmas plays etc in order not to offend non Christians.

The disagreement the 2 boys had could quite easily have been 2 Cypriots boys having different a disagreement over 2 rival football teams.

[cypezokyli]

stuballstu, the punishment would have been worse if the Cypriot first former who had the cross had said anythig to the Turk about an Islamic symbol. That's 1000% certain, as we have some idiots running our school feeling that over-protectionism will benefit all of us. They make 90 people happy and cause disconent and unrest to around 850... Not a very good balance I say

Someone almost got suspended for removing a poster! Another got suspended for jumping through a window(he wrecked a car's roof but okay, no physical damage)

We were not allowed to celebrate the Cyprus Independence Day in a regular manner. There is a lot of suspicion and discontent amongst students in the school, and it's due to the school's approach.
The matter with the 12-year olds was just minimal, and typical if you ask me. The school made the wrong choice in dealing with it(let it go unpunished because the Turkish student said that he "regretted doing it"...) They told us that the matter was closed on November 8th, and 2 weeks later it's on a newspaper, indicating that the matter was not over. I give some blame to the school for the raid yesterday, but it's true that the media is attacking the school at times. Still, had the school dealt with it in a better way, and made an announcement of a kind right after discovering the article, a lot of damage and bad publicity would have been saved.

you are misleading. the incident was closed.
some clever people from your school (with like minded way of thinking) leaked the whole thing in the press.
then the simerini fascist , created a whole new story of the incident.

also, the fact that that the ones that came in the school to beet the tcs, knew exactly where they could find them, it is clear that they had insiders info.

who told that klik ?
i asked you before does the name chrysi avgi ring a bell to your ears ?

your school principal said to the press that, the parents of the kid also apologised and that the parents of the gc accepted the apology.

[michalis5354]

Simerini overgeneralised and created a new story out of nothing to support an argument. This is not the first time that is happening!!! A small event became a headline !