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Turkish sorrow at Ecevit death

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Natty » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:25 am

Hey, I think we should calm down a bit with the whole 'burn in hell thing'...Personally I don't think he did Cyprus any good,..but to many TC's they see him as their 'saviour'...I guess we have to respect that...although I completely understand the GC anger...to me, and I'm sure to most GC's he was/is one of the main reasons why Cyprus is in the state it is today....

But I have to say that my heart goes out to his family....No matter who you are, a death is always a horrible thing to have to cope with for friends and family....
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Postby turboturk » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:38 am

Well said Natty .


no matter what, the anger will still be there, if the elders dont stop teaching it to the next generation, and you know how, mole hills grow into mountains.
How can the youth of GC grow up with a neutral mind,even when the Holy men are leading the way in corruption and are great example setters.

The whole election thing for Archbishop could be another movie, just like "Scarface"

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Postby Eliko » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:10 am

Looks like we have got the formula for peace among these comments, we are ordinary people nicely poised to satisfy all the requirements of the respective manipulators in power, simmer down for God's sake, there is enough trouble in the world.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:46 am

turboturk wrote:If indeed you are the moderator of this board. you should be banned from ever having a board again, you are setting a great example for everyone else.
Remember , Ecevit did not attack, he intereviened and probably saved your ass as well from your own counrty men.
god rest his soul..

he was a great man, If this is a highly GC board, get your facts right.

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You cannot be serious with all the above, can you? If this is your perception about 1974, then definitely some people (presumably your parents, teachers, media, army officers, etc) must have done a truly very bad job on you and all the rest of people that happen to share the above fantasy that you described.
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Postby turboturk » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:49 am

BTW.....
It is not Lapithos any longer,it is now know as "LAPTA". :D
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:50 am

Eliko wrote:Looks like we have got the formula for peace among these comments, we are ordinary people nicely poised to satisfy all the requirements of the respective manipulators in power, simmer down for God's sake, there is enough trouble in the world.


Eliko, I do not know which is the formula for peace that we have, but if this is the Turkish and Turkish Cypriot society’s perception about 1974, i.e. the one Turboturk provided above, then we are definitely light years apart from finding such a peace formula.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:57 am

turboturk wrote:BTW.....
It is not Lapithos any longer,it is now know as "LAPTA". :D


Well, Turkish patriot (twisted Turkish nationalist,) the original TCs from Lapithos (those that lived there since before 1974) continue to call it Lapithos, and they even named some hotels, restaurants and clubs with the official name of the village. Pay a visit there and you will find this out!

PS: The name Lapithos exists in historical books, references, maps and artifacts all over the world, for more than 3,000 years. You are too little to believe that by changing the name for only the last 30 years, you will beat and erase a history of 3,000 years!
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Postby miltiades » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:20 am

The name is Lapithos just as Komi Kepir is and was prior to 1974. Changing a name of a city or a nation for that matter is a characteristic of gross inferiority complex.
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Postby Swashbuckler » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:43 pm

Piratis wrote:The generals in Greece that made the coup were sent to jail, the same with Samson in Cyprus.

In Turkey, the man that was responsible for the deaths of 6000 people, the ethnic cleansing of 200.000 and many more crimes, not only he was not jailed, but he is your idol and Turks are brainwashed to believe your "facts" about him.

Swashbuckler, you may swear at me all day and all night for stating the facts about that criminal called Ecevit. It just shows what kind of person you are supporting such scums like him.

Personally I never supported the likes of Grivas and Samson. There is a small minority of far-right GCs that would react in the same way that you do if something bad was said about Grivas. You are 100 times worst than them since you support a person who had committed 100 times more and worst crimes than Grivas did.

It is amazing how most Turks support their national criminals like this. Maybe it is because their national heroes have always been the "conquerors" who spread fear and death. How about having as idols some of your great philosophers and scientists instead? How about start acting a bit civilized for once instead of supporting criminals and crimes?


Piratis,

You've now proven yourself a fascist twat. Consistently skewing facts and history.

The Junta were jailed not because of Cyprus but because they had usurped power in a coup d'etat. The 1974 events were the catalyst because failing to incorporate Cyprus lost them almost all of their public and crucially military support. Ecevit acted under the treaty of guarantee - therefore legally. Grivas and Samson were murderous fascists. Makarios a corrupt, power-crazed loon.

And about small minorities supporting the GC fascists and Enosis peddlers - how come those same fascists and enosisists were in charge so long or had a free reign to do what they wanted? They were voted in by a majority- ergo Makarios the enosisist (and now Big Nose Papadoc).

Discrimination against TCs was total - both explicit (restrictions on building materials) and implicit ("delays" in "government" offices).

You're mostly to blame for and remain complicit in the partition of Cyprus.

And therefore Lapta will remain "Lapta" - as it ALWAYS was to its TC inhabitants.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:09 pm

Swashbuckler, sorry for insulting your criminal idol. You are right. Only when Greeks commit crimes it is something bad.

The Turks can commit 100 times more and worst crimes and anybody that dares to complain about it is a "fascist twat" according to you.

You are complaining about "restrictions on building materials" while you believe that Ecevit, that murderous pig, that murdered 6000 people and ethnically cleansed 200.000 did so legally!!!

What you say is the biggest joke ever my friend. Keep dreaming that what you did was legal. The "trnc" is legal, the occupation is legal, Turks butchering thousands of people and committing ethnic cleansing is legal, anything else Swashbuckler? Oh, I forgot, the Armenian genocide is legal also, the oppression of the Kurds and the bombings of their villages is legal.

So every crime the Turks did is legal. How could we ever doubt the most civilized nation in the world??? Thanks for opening our eyes :roll:
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