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[zan]

If you cannot agree a solution that both sides can commit to then what do you do ?

The only kind of solution you can commit to is partition. And obviously we can not agree to it.

Therefore what we do is to seek justice and legality and try to find ways to force the occupation army out of Cyprus, and stop wasting our time talking to you.

Nothing new then, you have been trying every trick in the book for years continue and I'm sure you will get very much the same result as you have been doing for the last 32 years, with the exception that you have now exposed your real face to the EU and will continue to be a thorn in their side as the only country divided in the union.

EU is happy to have us in the union. The Turks are those they don't like. You didn't understood even this?

The EU source close to Turkish accession negotiations says that the EU was worried that Greece was preparing to veto the 2004 10-nation enlargement if Cyprus was not included. "But there is a sense now within the EU that maybe (allowing Cyprus in) wasn't the most reasonable thing to do."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1 ... 07,00.html

[bg_turk]

EU is happy to have us in the union. The Turks are those they don't like. You didn't understood even this?

Since day one of your accession you have been pain in the ass for the EU with your constant whinnings. Now the EU has to make a decision - a choice between you and Turkey. If as expected they choose Cyprus over Turkey, you will be the biggest loosers as you will have lost any leverage on Turkey. If they chooose Turkey over Cyprus, you will be loosers again as you will no longer yield any power within the union. Whatever happens in the next week, you and you alone will be the losers. Your hate is slowly but surely destroying, and you have only yourselves to blame for it.

[bg_turk]

Oneobvious step is the request that Turkey withdraw the vast majority of her troops and leave only enough that are required to support the TC troops.

That will never happen. The Turkish troops are the only ones that guarantee the security and soveregnity of Northern Cyprus, which still is otherwise an unrecognized state. Removing the Turkish troops would be an irreversible act that will seriously undermine the Turkish Cypriot state.

The Turkish troops can only withdraw after a comprehensive solution that will involve international guarantees for the security of the Turkish Cypriot state.

[Piratis]

This is a very hypocritical statement. It was in fact Greek Cypriots who were working for the destruction of the ROC by way of their ideology of Enosis. Should the supporters of EOKA-B , which include the current president Papadopolous, be also treated in a "very strict way"? Surely they too where working for the destruction of the ROC?

As Sotos said you are clueless regarding Papadopoulos. He was a close associate of Makarios and had nothing to do with EOKA-B.

EOKA-B was dismantled, and Samson was jailed. Now even those that were involved don't even dare to admit it.

Therefore we have dealt with that minority of GCs that went against democracy. Now we also have to deal with that minority of TCs that continue doing the same since before the 60s.

[zan]

This is a very hypocritical statement. It was in fact Greek Cypriots who were working for the destruction of the ROC by way of their ideology of Enosis. Should the supporters of EOKA-B , which include the current president Papadopolous, be also treated in a "very strict way"? Surely they too where working for the destruction of the ROC?

As Sotos said you are clueless regarding Papadopoulos. He was a close associate of Makarios and had nothing to do with EOKA-B.

EOKA-B was dismantled, and Samson was jailed. Now even those that were involved don't even dare to admit it.

Therefore we have dealt with that minority of GCs that went against democracy. Now we also have to deal with that minority of TCs that continue doing the same since before the 60s.

I have seen this one in an episode of "Dads Army". Take his name, Ve vill report him to ze Furer!!!!! "Don't tell him your name Pike"....

[Piratis]

EU is happy to have us in the union. The Turks are those they don't like. You didn't understood even this?

Since day one of your accession you have been pain in the ass for the EU with your constant whinnings. Now the EU has to make a decision - a choice between you and Turkey. If as expected they choose Cyprus over Turkey, you will be the biggest loosers as you will have lost any leverage on Turkey. If they chooose Turkey over Cyprus, you will be loosers again as you will no longer yield any power within the union. Whatever happens in the next week, you and you alone will be the losers. Your hate is slowly but surely destroying, and you have only yourselves to blame for it.

Turkey is going to be the big loser from this, as always. Turks can "win" only when it involves barbaric acts of land grab, ethnic cleansing, genocides etc. They are really good in those kind of things. In everything else they are the biggest losers ever existed.
Thats of course not the fault of the average Turk, who is unfortunately kept uneducated and fed only with nationalistic propaganda.
It is the fault of the Nazi leadership of Turkey (=army) who are keeping their own country in the middle ages because thats what suits their expansionistic racist plans better.

[zan]

[MR-from-NG]

As Sotos said you are clueless regarding Papadopoulos. He was a close associate of Makarios and had nothing to do with EOKA-B.

Piratis, you make me sick. You alone have made me change from a person who was pro re-unification to one that is totally anti unification. I want nothing to do with Greeks because of you. I want things to stay exactly as they are. If I had my way I would close the borders tomorrow. You turned me, a peace loving person, a man with love and respect for his fellow man hate the Greeks. You alone are responsible for the hate I feel for your race. I hope you are proud of yourself for this achievement.

[Piratis]

You feel hate for my race because you are a bloody racist.

mrfromng first post in the forum:

Can't these guys get it into their head the Annan Plan is history!
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Can't you guys get it into your heads that without the Annan plan there is on re-unification!!

Anyway, as things are at the present moment everybody is happy. You are living in the south we are in the north, in peace, everyone's a winner.

IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT.

Then he is telling us that he was pro re-unification

My achievement is that partitionists like you get really really pissed when you run out of arguments to support your crimes and illegalities. The only reason I reply to partitionists like you is to set the facts straight. Not because I expect that you will change from racist practitionists to anything better. Thats impossible.

[Kikapu]

Piratis,
You turned me, a peace loving person, a man with love and respect for his fellow man hate the Greeks. You alone are responsible for the hate I feel for your race. I hope you are proud of yourself for this achievement.

I can see from the above, that peace has not reached Cyprus yet.!!!

Mrfromng, it is in every person to hate another, whether he or she is from your own race or from another. You have every right to hate Piratis from what he writes that you disagree with, as hard as it is for me to understand, to be able to hate someone that you have not met or this person have not done anything to you directly, but solely on what he writes, that you do not like, but to hate the whole Greek race is beyond my comprehension.

I'm sorry to say this to a fellow Turkish Cypriot who has suffered similar unpleasant childhood as myself in 1963-64, but this makes you a racist at the highest level, when you make such statements. The truth is, from what I have read from your past posts, that you're not a racist, but a person who loses control when getting angry at one person, even hating that persons remarks, makes a giant leap in making a stupid remarks, as you made above.

I can only think of one way to take that "racist" statement back, and that is to ask for forgiveness from those who have read it. I hate to think what went through Miltiades's mind, a person that you have interacted with recently, who spoke very positive of you or Andri_cy, that you wanted to meet in the States couple of months ago.

To hate a race is to hate yourself, and I do not think, that you hate yourself. I'll leave it with you, to think it over.