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[observer]

So, if I understand you correctly, TC villages and religious sites in the South have deteriorated after 32 years but this was not done intentionally.

In the North however, everything Greek and Christian has intentionally been destroyed because there could not have been any deterioration, even after 32 years.

Wow!

[Piratis]

So, if I understand you correctly, TC villages and religious sites in the South have deteriorated after 32 years but this was not done intentionally.

In the North however, everything Greek and Christian has intentionally been destroyed because there could not have been any deterioration, even after 32 years.

Wow!

Well, maybe the Turkish soldiers that are using that church as a military post just grew there naturally like wheat?

The fact is that RoC wants a solution where people return to their homes. RoC WANTS TCs to come back to Limassol, Larnaca, Paphos etc so GCs can also move back to their own land in the now occupied part of Cyprus.

On the other hand the occupation regime WANTS to maintain the separation, were GCs are in the south and TCs in the north.

Therefore it is very clear why the occupation regime is doing everything possible to remove everything Greek/Christian from occupied Cyprus as they want to Turkify that part of our island.

[Viewpoint]

So the GCs want to divide and rule, to assimilate the TCs into GC society, state and country.....thus succeeding in their aim of the 1960s to disperse the strength in unity of TCs, a population easily soluble into a GC majority. Your ideology is typical of a eoka b terrorist back in our dark past.

The solution will not be one where TCs go back, this at best will only be around 10%, there will 2 states in which GCs and TCs can settle freely but they will have to accept the administration of either the GC or TC state. Political power will be shared via proportional representation but the TCs will have a veto right to stop majority power and dominance when and where necessary, the troops on both sides will go and as many refugees as possible will have the choice to go home,(where it is viable) the settlers will by EU criteria be rehoused and made citizens if they are eligible, security will be provided for the north state by Turkey until or if they ever enter the EU, the north state will be reduced to 27/29%, the "RoC" and the TRNC will be scrapped and a United Cyprus Republic will be born where we will have one identity abroad. Joint discrimination boards will be set up as a mechanism to deter and deal with any act of a discriminative nature on both sides, with the power to enforce heavy penalties. Turkish Greek and English will be compulsory in all schools.

[zan]

So, if I understand you correctly, TC villages and religious sites in the South have deteriorated after 32 years but this was not done intentionally.

In the North however, everything Greek and Christian has intentionally been destroyed because there could not have been any deterioration, even after 32 years.

Wow!

Well, maybe the Turkish soldiers that are using that church as a military post just grew there naturally like wheat?

The fact is that RoC wants a solution where people return to their homes. RoC WANTS TCs to come back to Limassol, Larnaca, Paphos etc so GCs can also move back to their own land in the now occupied part of Cyprus.

On the other hand the occupation regime WANTS to maintain the separation, were GCs are in the south and TCs in the north.

Therefore it is very clear why the occupation regime is doing everything possible to remove everything Greek/Christian from occupied Cyprus as they want to Turkify that part of our island.

RoC wants, Roc wants. What about what the TCs want. We as indigenous Turkish Cypriots want what we have got and had to die in order to get from murder and oppression from the Greeks. You fought your independence war against the British and killed everyone that got in your way with your so-called terrorist freedom fighters, now we are fighting ours. Your illegality became legality with the signing of a piece of paper and so will ours. Then you can turn on the real guilty ones in this case which is your government.

[Piratis]

So the GCs want to divide and rule, to assimilate the TCs into GC society, state and country.....thus succeeding in their aim of the 1960s to disperse the strength in unity of TCs, a population easily soluble into a GC majority. Your ideology is typical of a eoka b terrorist back in our dark past.

You are wrong. EOKA B was fighting for enosis, and the equivalent terrorists of TMT were fighting for partition. This was against the compromise of 1960 which was for one unitary state.

Therefore you are the one who has a typical TMT ideology of the dark past.

The solution will not be one where TCs go back, this at best will only be around 10%, bla bla bla bla

The solution will be return to legality. Don't expect to gain even more on our loss, it will not happen.

RoC wants, Roc wants. What about what the TCs want.

TCs can want anything they wish within the limits of legality, democracy and human rights. If what they want is crimes and illegalities then they will face the consequences. The same goes for Turkey.

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Piratis

You are wrong. EOKA B was fighting for enosis, and the equivalent terrorists of TMT were fighting for partition. This was against the compromise of 1960 which was for one unitary state.

Therefore you are the one who has a typical TMT ideology of the dark past.

The part of the eoka movement I was trying to refer to was their thirst to get rid of the TCs obstacle they were doing it by guns you would just do it by assimilation.

The solution will be return to legality. Don't expect to gain even more on our loss, it will not happen.

Thats what i said legally 2 states, north and south.

[Piratis]

The part of the eoka movement I was trying to refer to was their thirst to get rid of the TCs obstacle they were doing it by guns you would just do it by assimilation.

Not any more assimilation than the people of any other country are assimilated with each other.

Thats what i said legally 2 states, north and south.

What is legal for Cyprus is the 1960 constitution. What you force is nothing less than criminal and illegal.

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Piratis

Not any more assimilation than the people of any other country are assimilated with each other.

Lets allow the individuals the freedom to choose.

What is legal for Cyprus is the 1960 constitution. What you force is nothing less than criminal and illegal.

You are not being forced, the last time you were asked you said no resoundingly.

[Piratis]

Lets allow the individuals the freedom to choose.

Nobody has the right to choose illegality, crimes and violations of human rights.

You are not being forced, the last time you were asked you said no resoundingly.

Yes, we said no to partition resoundingly as it was our right to do so. You keeping 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus under illegal occupation is not your right.

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Piratis

Nobody has the right to choose illegality, crimes and violations of human rights

Are you saying that nobody should have the right to decide whether they wish to live in the north or south state be they TC or GC under the administration of that state?

Yes, we said no to partition resoundingly as it was our right to do so. You keeping 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus under illegal occupation is not your right.

You said no to a UN brokered universally endorsed Comprehensive solution plan, the rest is history. It is our right to live somewhere on this shared island and we choose to live in this part of the island under protection until or if a solution is ever found.