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[alexISS]

Then do what you do best go complain to the UN and EU.

And when the EU and the UN once again condemn the occupation do what you do best; Invade them

[Kikapu]

Kikapu wrote: "" I am deeply disappointed and hurt that someone can even think about saying they hate me when they do not know me. I find that prejudicial and racist ""


Kikapu I honestly thought you were a T/C ,.

Miltiades,

The above quote was made by Andri_cy and not by me, so, what it's worth, I am a Turkish Cypriot ( hope you're not too disappointed ).!!!!!!

[andri_cy]

LOL Kikapu...

[reportfromcyprus]

Anyone notice that the GC and TC leadership is going further and further back in its rhetoric?

It's beginning to sound like the 1960's around here, and to be frank, I think that's dangerous.

[cypezokyli]

Anyone notice that the GC and TC leadership is going further and further back in its rhetoric?

It's beginning to sound like the 1960's around here, and to be frank, I think that's dangerous.

thank god , i thought i was hearing things

[Piratis]

Anyone notice that the GC and TC leadership is going further and further back in its rhetoric?

It's beginning to sound like the 1960's around here, and to be frank, I think that's dangerous.

1960? in 1960 we didn't have a Turkish occupation.

Maybe you wanted to say 1980's?

Personally I think it was a big mistake from our side to try and be flexible with the Turks. We kept giving and giving, and they kept taking and taking and asking for more and more.

Turkey will move out of Cyprus only when they will be forced to do so. Rhetoric, words etc are irrelevant.

[Viewpoint]

Anyone notice that the GC and TC leadership is going further and further back in its rhetoric?

It's beginning to sound like the 1960's around here, and to be frank, I think that's dangerous.

1960? in 1960 we didn't have a Turkish occupation.

Maybe you wanted to say 1980's?

Personally I think it was a big mistake from our side to try and be flexible with the Turks. We kept giving and giving, and they kept taking and taking and asking for more and more.

Turkey will move out of Cyprus only when they will be forced to do so. Rhetoric, words etc are irrelevant.

You always have the option to shut up.

[observer]

Sorry for the delay in replying Piratis, but it has taken a bit of research to get there. You wrote:

Not a single Mosque has been destroyed. This shows that having nothing else to reply to the crimes and atrocities of the Turks you are either trying to avoid the questions or you invent some lies.

A copy of a document and accompanying CD has been sent to every Euro MP entitled 'Erasing The Past'.

In RoC, of 139 former TC settlements visited, 30 villages have literally disappeared.

Of 102 mosques visited, 25 were in good condition, 16 destroyed, 14 in bad condition, and 47 neglected.

Of 148 TC cemeteries visited, 3 were in good condition, 43 destroyed, 93 in bad condition and 9 neglected.

Not for one minute do I deny that a similar picture could be painted for GC churches and cemeteries in TRNC, although I would deny the simple propaganda story of horses being stabled in churches. There aren't many horses in the North and they are quite sensibly kept in well maintained stables, not neglected churches. From my observations, however, the principal cause of most churches (and most mosques) looking like they are is 32 years of weathering and neglect. So don't believe all the silly one-sided propaganda your government puts out.

Final thought - I wonder if Papadop told the Pope about the destruction and neglect of TC religious sites in the South when he took his photo album of neglected GC religious sites in the North along recently.

[Eliko]

ASH HADU AN LA ILAHA ILALA ILALAHO,
WA ASH HADU ANA MOHAMMUDUR RASULALLAH


Read of these words and you are one of us !.

[Piratis]

A copy of a document and accompanying CD has been sent to every Euro MP entitled 'Erasing The Past'.

Made by whom?

We didn't bring settlers to occupy the TC villages, just to some of them refugees were temporarily placed until they will be allowed to return to their own. Therefore some TC villages, mosques, cemeteries etc have been neglected and maybe their condition deteriorated a lot after 32 years. This however was not done intentionally.

From my observations, however, the principal cause of most churches (and most mosques) looking like they are is 32 years of weathering and neglect. So don't believe all the silly one-sided propaganda your government puts out.

What you say is true for the free areas. For the north the destruction of everything Greek and Christian is intentional.
When I served in the military I saw churches that were used by the Turkish army as military posts. I have also seen photos of churches turned into bars, and we all read recently what the plans for Apostolos Andreas are. So please don't tell that it is "one-sided propaganda" when I can see it with my own eyes.