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by **mehmet** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:47 am

So far I read that Turkey is to start talks on October 3 next year. EU expects Turkey to recognise Cyprus by that date. Issue of Cyprus to continue to be talked about tommorrow.

So no one veto in the end.

What difference will this make in Cyprus if things stay in this state? I don't know what to think, help me with your views.

by **magikthrill** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:52 am

According to one of the articles I read, Turkey made a vow to settle the CYprus dispute.

That is obviously something favorable for Cyprus. Maybe not for "brother" but for Cyprus it is. Therefore, there was no need for Cyprus to veto, especially since Turkey (pretty much) met the requirements set by the Dutch presidency.

by **Alexandros Lordos** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:55 am

A very interesting dynamic is developing here ...

If Turkey has to recognise Cyprus by October 3rd, this is tantamount to saying that the Cyprus Problem has to be solved by October 3rd ... (since this is the only way Turkey would recognise Cyprus).

Good news, people. The ball is rolling once more ...

by **mehmet** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:06 am

Alex,

I don't understand your point. Is it not possible to recognise RoC without a peace settlement? After all, when UK and Argentina had no diplomatic relations for a while they still recognised each other as states that existed.

by **Piratis** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:11 am

Either what I know is not correct or your info is wrong.

What I know is that Turkey is supposed to expand the trade union with Cyprus by October. 3rd, something that is some form of de facto recognition, but not the official recognition we were asking for.

Basically, as expected, the American pressures worked for Turkey, and they got most of what they asked for. But not everything, because it seems the procedure will be "open-ended" with no membership guarantee given.

by **mehmet** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:17 am

Yes, it's still too early to be sure one way or another.

I've just seen another report on BBC where Turkish government officials confirmed that they are not despearate to get into EU at any cost. And Cyprus is very important issue for Turkish government. So we may have stalemate. No Turkey in EU, no momentum to solve Cyprus problem.

by **mehmet** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:25 am

I have heard that Mr Erdogan will make some new proposals regarding Cyprus. We shall no doubt hear what these are in due course. There are other things aside from Cyprus that might make Turkey say 'thanks but no thanks'.

by **michalis5354** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:25 am

Yes I think Turkey will follow a constructive approach and UN are also expected to start a new initiative .Nothing is certain yet but thats what I expect, I guess we have to wait and see!

by **Piratis** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:25 am

Turkey desperately needs the date. Just by starting accession negotiations they will start receiving huge funds directly from the EU for development. Being a candidate will also increase the international investments in Turkey dramatically.

There is no way that Turkey will reject EU. They will just bargain as hard as they can until the last moment to get the best possible deal. Whatever that deal will be in the end they will accept it and they will present it to the Turkish people as a great achievement.

by **mehmet** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:28 am

By the way, Piratis, once again you point the finger at USA working for Turkey. Is it not possible that some contries might have their own reasons for acting as they do regarding this issue?

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