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[MR-from-NG]

It should be good to point out that any piece of paper or document that has been published from the so called TRNC authorities is as good as toilet paper to any place in the world as they have no jurisdiction whatsoever on any kind of Cypriot land than that they gave themselves and protect through the military occupation of parts of the Republic of Cyprus.

That's rubbish.The Oram's used theirs as tissue to wipe away Apostolides's tears.

[simonwjones]

It should be good to point out that any piece of paper or document that has been published from the so called TRNC authorities is as good as toilet paper to any place in the world as they have no jurisdiction whatsoever on any kind of Cypriot land than that they gave themselves and protect through the military occupation of parts of the Republic of Cyprus.

That's rubbish.The Oram's used theirs as tissue to wipe away Apostolides's tears.

Is this case now closed?

[andri_cy]

No they were appealing last I read.

[Sotos]

It should be good to point out that any piece of paper or document that has been published from the so called TRNC authorities is as good as toilet paper to any place in the world as they have no jurisdiction whatsoever on any kind of Cypriot land than that they gave themselves and protect through the military occupation of parts of the Republic of Cyprus.

That's rubbish.The Oram's used theirs as tissue to wipe away Apostolides's tears.

What you say is rubbish. I will quote Kifeas on this:

Furthermore, in paragraph 31 of the above judgment, the British high court finds that:
"I do not think that the case for Mr and Mrs Orams on this aspect of the appeal can be put in any other way. The land is within the Republic of Cyprus. There is no conflict with Article 22.1 of the Regulation. It is not within the territory of another Member State. The cases in the European Court of Human Rights show that the laws of the TRNC cannot be relied on by Mr and Mrs Orams to deprive Mr Apostolides of his title to the land. In any event that would involve a review of the substance of the judgment of the District Court of 19 April 2005, contrary to Article 36. So on these matters I accept the submissions of Mr Beazley."

Basically, what the Orams are celebrating is not their vindication as to whether what they did was an illegality (trespassing,) or not, or that Apostolides is not the real owner of the property in which they built their villa, but they are celebrating the fact that their act will remain (temporarily) with impunity. They were not vindicated morally, and they were not cleared out legally. They just got away with impunity for the time being, and this is what they celebrate.

[simonwjones]

It should be good to point out that any piece of paper or document that has been published from the so called TRNC authorities is as good as toilet paper to any place in the world as they have no jurisdiction whatsoever on any kind of Cypriot land than that they gave themselves and protect through the military occupation of parts of the Republic of Cyprus.

That's rubbish.The Oram's used theirs as tissue to wipe away Apostolides's tears.

What you say is rubbish. I will quote Kifeas on this:

Furthermore, in paragraph 31 of the above judgment, the British high court finds that:
"I do not think that the case for Mr and Mrs Orams on this aspect of the appeal can be put in any other way. The land is within the Republic of Cyprus. There is no conflict with Article 22.1 of the Regulation. It is not within the territory of another Member State. The cases in the European Court of Human Rights show that the laws of the TRNC cannot be relied on by Mr and Mrs Orams to deprive Mr Apostolides of his title to the land. In any event that would involve a review of the substance of the judgment of the District Court of 19 April 2005, contrary to Article 36. So on these matters I accept the submissions of Mr Beazley."

Basically, what the Orams are celebrating is not their vindication as to whether what they did was an illegality (trespassing,) or not, or that Apostolides is not the real owner of the property in which they built their villa, but they are celebrating the fact that their act will remain (temporarily) with impunity. They were not vindicated morally, and they were not cleared out legally. They just got away with impunity for the time being, and this is what they celebrate.

Cheers Sotos. Why would anybody want to purchase in the North is beyond me, it really is.

[Natty]

It should be good to point out that any piece of paper or document that has been published from the so called TRNC authorities is as good as toilet paper to any place in the world as they have no jurisdiction whatsoever on any kind of Cypriot land than that they gave themselves and protect through the military occupation of parts of the Republic of Cyprus.

That's rubbish.The Oram's used theirs as tissue to wipe away Apostolides's tears.

What you say is rubbish. I will quote Kifeas on this:

Furthermore, in paragraph 31 of the above judgment, the British high court finds that:
"I do not think that the case for Mr and Mrs Orams on this aspect of the appeal can be put in any other way. The land is within the Republic of Cyprus. There is no conflict with Article 22.1 of the Regulation. It is not within the territory of another Member State. The cases in the European Court of Human Rights show that the laws of the TRNC cannot be relied on by Mr and Mrs Orams to deprive Mr Apostolides of his title to the land. In any event that would involve a review of the substance of the judgment of the District Court of 19 April 2005, contrary to Article 36. So on these matters I accept the submissions of Mr Beazley."

Basically, what the Orams are celebrating is not their vindication as to whether what they did was an illegality (trespassing,) or not, or that Apostolides is not the real owner of the property in which they built their villa, but they are celebrating the fact that their act will remain (temporarily) with impunity. They were not vindicated morally, and they were not cleared out legally. They just got away with impunity for the time being, and this is what they celebrate.

Cheers Sotos. Why would anybody want to purchase in the North is beyond me, it really is.

Hi Simon, I understand people falling in love with the North, it is such a beautiful part of Cyprus...it's just so risky buying property there...

[Noaxetogrind]

Simonwjones. Like several other contributors I doubt whether your friend really exists but then if he is as naive as you appear to be may I suggest you start to educate yourself as to the reasons why Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974.

mrfromng's posting on 2 November under ' How did the Cyprus problem happen' would be a good point at which to begin. Perhaps then not so many things will be beyond your comprehension.

[Noaxetogrind]

If what Sotos says about arrests at Larnaca airport for passengers merely carrying property details is correct can anybody substantiate this as one of my friends,a newspaper journalist ,would love this one as no doubt would the EU.

[Piratis]

and of course "Noaxetogrind" you accept everything which is copy paste of Turkish propaganda. But why do you think any decent person would do the same as you do?

[humanist]

The British appear to be good at that ...... the hell they steal whole countries let alone neighbours .... look what they've done to the Indigenous people of Australia.