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[andri_cy]

Is there a need for name calling really all ?

[Strahd]

Also as a new member to this forum I understood it to be a Cyprus forum, but it seems as though it is a Southern Cyprus forum.

There is only one Cyprus, one state get that well in your guts. The northern areas that declared themselves independent through military force have broken every single international law there is. It is an illegal regime, controlled and protected by the Turkish military. There was never an exchange of property. The Greek Cypriots left their lands and homes because they were forced to under the threat of a gun. The Turkish Cypriot properties in the south are protected and no title deeds were given to any Greek Cypriot refuge who might be using them. Greek refuges were only recently relocated when a TC decided to return to his home in Limassol. This is how the world works.

[miltiades]

Trinket , you appear as naive as the Brits who go to Spain and invest their hard earned cash in time share schemes designed specifically for the operators of such schemes benefits. The north part of Cyprus is indeed a wonderful place and the people are indeed friendly and civilized. However the International community , including Britain , considers the north of Cyprus to be part of Cyprus but under Turkish occupation. It is an undisputed fact that the vast part of property belongs legally to the refugees . Selling of this land , you must surely see , constitutes an illegal transaction since deeds obtained do not have international recognition through out the globe and indeed only the Turkish authorities of Turkey recognise such deeds as legal.

Property is cheap for one and only one reason.

[MarsdenCuckoo]

Purchasing land or property in Northern Cyprus is not illegal; I do agree that anyone promoting the purchase of non pre-64 TC or foreign owned land would be.

I have no reason to censor this thread; if you are unhappy with my decision you have the right to contact Admin.

Lana

Correct, we are only discussing and not promoting.

Lana would you ban me if I started talking about good child pornography? I would not be promoting just talking about it...

Contradiction in terms/no such thing as good child pornography!!

[Strahd]

Purchasing land or property in Northern Cyprus is not illegal; I do agree that anyone promoting the purchase of non pre-64 TC or foreign owned land would be.

I have no reason to censor this thread; if you are unhappy with my decision you have the right to contact Admin.

Lana

Correct, we are only discussing and not promoting.

Lana would you ban me if I started talking about good child pornography? I would not be promoting just talking about it...

Contradiction in terms/no such thing as good child pornography!!

Is the same as saying that you bought land-property from the occuppied areas on the republic of Cyprus. Buying is a procedure that involves law, tax and other factors that are applied from the government and the authorities. Since the government and authorities cannot apply in the occuppied areas then "buying" is a contradictive term.

[simonwjones]

Trinket , you appear as naive as the Brits who go to Spain and invest their hard earned cash in time share schemes designed specifically for the operators of such schemes benefits. The north part of Cyprus is indeed a wonderful place and the people are indeed friendly and civilized. However the International community , including Britain , considers the north of Cyprus to be part of Cyprus but under Turkish occupation. It is an undisputed fact that the vast part of property belongs legally to the refugees . Selling of this land , you must surely see , constitutes an illegal transaction since deeds obtained do not have international recognition through out the globe and indeed only the Turkish authorities of Turkey recognise such deeds as legal.

Property is cheap for one and only one reason.

Like anything which is cheap, there is a reason behind this.

The place my friend has seen is TRNC freehold. Please can someone explain what this is, is it safe and what could happen if it weren't.

[Svetlana]

Simon

Stolen from a website:


There are 4 types of Title Deeds (Kocan)

Clean Freehold Tıtle

British or foreign owned prior to 1974 with Title deeds available.

Clean Freehold Title

Turkish Cypriot owned prior to 1974, these deeds are 100% safe but very hard to find and expensive to buy. Before property can be registered in your name an application has to be made to the Council of Ministers for approval. Foreigners are only allowed to purchase 1 Dönüm per couple same surname. For different surnames then 1 Dönüm each.

TRNC Kesin Tasarruf

Absolute possession title deed, This is property that was Greek Cypriot owned prior to 1974. When the Turkish refugees came to the North leaving their own homes in the South the TRNC government set up a points system. Each person was awarded points to the value of the property left in the South. With their point they could take possession of a property previously owned by a Greek Cypriot. The Turkish owner would sign over their property in the South to the TRNC government. These deeds are being held pending a negotiated settlement of the 2 sides.

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The latter is the so-called 'Exchange Land' Title, but as has been expressed elsewhere, you need two to agree an exchange.

Interestingly, I have just had a GC gentleman, this morning, offer me land in the north, with, he said, the new Title Deeds. I assume these are reissued TD, the originals being lost in the destruction of the Famagusta Land Registry office - but I never buy property in the north, so did not pursue it.

Lana

Lana

[simonwjones]

Simon

Stolen from a website:


There are 4 types of Title Deeds (Kocan)

Clean Freehold Tıtle

British or foreign owned prior to 1974 with Title deeds available.

Clean Freehold Title

Turkish Cypriot owned prior to 1974, these deeds are 100% safe but very hard to find and expensive to buy. Before property can be registered in your name an application has to be made to the Council of Ministers for approval. Foreigners are only allowed to purchase 1 Dönüm per couple same surname. For different surnames then 1 Dönüm each.

TRNC Kesin Tasarruf

Absolute possession title deed, This is property that was Greek Cypriot owned prior to 1974. When the Turkish refugees came to the North leaving their own homes in the South the TRNC government set up a points system. Each person was awarded points to the value of the property left in the South. With their point they could take possession of a property previously owned by a Greek Cypriot. The Turkish owner would sign over their property in the South to the TRNC government. These deeds are being held pending a negotiated settlement of the 2 sides.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The latter is the so-called 'Exchange Land' Title, but as has been expressed elsewhere, you need two to agree an exchange.

Interestingly, I have just had a GC gentleman, this morning, offer me land in the north, with, he said, the new Title Deeds. I assume these are reissued TD, the originals being lost in the destruction of the Famagusta Land Registry office - but I never buy property in the north, so did not pursue it.

Lana

Lana

Thanks, so TRNC Freehold is TRNC Kesin Tasarruf?

If my friend went through with this, he may not see his title deeds for years and years? Maybe never!

[Strahd]

Simon

Stolen from a website:


There are 4 types of Title Deeds (Kocan)

Clean Freehold Tıtle

British or foreign owned prior to 1974 with Title deeds available.

Clean Freehold Title

Turkish Cypriot owned prior to 1974, these deeds are 100% safe but very hard to find and expensive to buy. Before property can be registered in your name an application has to be made to the Council of Ministers for approval. Foreigners are only allowed to purchase 1 Dönüm per couple same surname. For different surnames then 1 Dönüm each.

TRNC Kesin Tasarruf

Absolute possession title deed, This is property that was Greek Cypriot owned prior to 1974. When the Turkish refugees came to the North leaving their own homes in the South the TRNC government set up a points system. Each person was awarded points to the value of the property left in the South. With their point they could take possession of a property previously owned by a Greek Cypriot. The Turkish owner would sign over their property in the South to the TRNC government. These deeds are being held pending a negotiated settlement of the 2 sides.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The latter is the so-called 'Exchange Land' Title, but as has been expressed elsewhere, you need two to agree an exchange.

Interestingly, I have just had a GC gentleman, this morning, offer me land in the north, with, he said, the new Title Deeds. I assume these are reissued TD, the originals being lost in the destruction of the Famagusta Land Registry office - but I never buy property in the north, so did not pursue it.

Lana

Lana

Lana,

It should be good to point out that any piece of paper or document that has been published from the so called TRNC authorities is as good as toilet paper to any place in the world as they have no jurisdiction whatsoever on any kind of Cypriot land than that they gave themselves and protect through the military occupation of parts of the Republic of Cyprus.

[Svetlana]

Hi Srahd

I think you have done that for me

Lana