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[pitsilos]

CYPRUS FORUM EXCLUSIVE

Turks: We want the Greeks in the talks.

Europeans: Why? The Greeks can send their ships to Turkey whenever they like.

Turks: But if we have the Greek Cypriots without the Greeks then they appear independent.

Europeans: But they are independent. You have to be independent to be admitted to the EU.

Turks: Well then, we want the Turkish Cypriots there. They are also independent.

Europeans: Well, if they are independent they are not in the EU and have no place in the talks. If they are in the EU then they have to be part of the Cypriot delegation.

Turks: You are not neutral in this affair. You are trying to make us recognise the Greek Cypriot administration as independent and as representing the Turkish Cypriots. You are biased against Muslims. To you half a million Christian Greeks are worth more than 70 million Muslim Turks. We will denounce you to the Muslim world and tell the Americans how you treated us.

Europeans: This has nothing to do with religion or numbers. There are certain political realities. I am afraid you have to face them.

Turks: You double-crossed us. You promised us the Greek Cypriots would never vote against the Annan plan.

Europeans: We were never in a position to promise you anything of the sort. The Americans may have done ... although they shouldn't have ...

Turks: You promised us you would lift the isolation of the Turkish Cypriots. You lied to us.

Europeans: We promised to do everything we can. And we are, but it is not only up to us. Your position has not helped ...

Turks: Intrigue, intrigue, intrigue.The EU is holding Cyprus talks but Greece isn't around. When did this happen?

[elko]

Is there an Oscar for writing Scenarios?
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[Piratis]

pitsilos, where did you find that?

elko, I don't know if the above was said word for word but it is obvious that something along those lines could have been easily said. It is the usual Turkish position who are trying to equate the illegal pseudo state they installed in Cyprus with Republic of Cyprus.

[Piratis]

The European Union has dropped plans to hold a last-ditch meeting with Turkish and Cypriot officials, to be hosted by Finland in Helsinki at the weekend.

Finland said it was unable to get all sides around the table - but that it would keep trying for a breakthrough.

The meeting was meant to avert a crisis in Turkey's bid for EU membership.

The European Commission publishes a report next week that is expected to criticise Turkey for not opening its ports to traffic from Cyprus.

Cyprus is a member of the EU, but Turkey does not recognise it.

The island was divided in 1974, when Turkey invaded the north after a coup backed by supporters of a union with Greece.

Crisis looming

That the Finns could not get everybody together is not a good sign.

Finland was hoping to make progress on a plan under which Turkey would open some ports to ships from Cyprus, while the EU would ease the economic isolation of Turkish Cypriots.

But according to diplomats, Turkey refused to attend the talks, arguing that Greece should also be involved in any discussions concerning Cyprus.

Contacts will now continue at the level of officials, and the Finnish foreign minister will meet the Turkish Cypriot leader in Brussels on Friday.

But few expect a breakthrough by Wednesday, when the European Commission is due to issue a critical report on Turkey's progress, not just in its dealings with Cyprus, but also as regards political reforms and freedom of speech.

Brussels has repeatedly warned the government in Ankara that failure to keep its promises could derail its membership bid.

Next week's report is not expected to make any recommendation on the suspension of talks, which began only a year ago.

But EU leaders may have to take that difficult decision when they meet in Brussels in December and face a serious crisis in relations with Turkey.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6110126.stm

[pitsilos]

I am just putting things into perpective with a quick summary for the benefit of our turkish cypriot bros

[zan]

pitsilos


You forgot to add;


Turkey: Then we will not attend the meeting. Sod the lot of you and the Cyprus problem can go on forever.

[pitsilos]

i just gave you a brief summary of the talks and you go and get your knickers in a knot

[zan]

i just gave you a brief summary of the talks and you go and get your knickers in a knot

I just thought the story did not have the ending that is current at the moment. Is that not the point we are at, where Turkey has refused to enter the talks?????????

[pitsilos]

nope your ending doesn't rhyme...i like mine coz its open ended...but i think you missed the whole point...the point is, and i am sure you know it, and as much as it kills you, the problem is with the EU, and not with Cyprus...Cyprus was, as always, willing to accomodate Turkey in some way, and Turkey refused...Now this is how the whole EU thingie is viewed by everyone in the EU...that dammmmmmmmmmmmnnnnn protocal

[zan]

nope your ending doesn't rhyme...i like mine coz its open ended...but i think you missed the whole point...the point is, and i am sure you know it, and as much as it kills you, the problem is with the EU, and not with Cyprus...Cyprus was, as always, willing to accomodate Turkey in some way, and Turkey refused...Now this is how the whole EU thingie is viewed by everyone in the EU...that dammmmmmmmmmmmnnnnn protocal

And now it might have to become a UN problem