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[Klik]

Miltiades, I can see you are familiar with the English language, the main language of the country you live in!

Cyprus' language has always been throughout its history, Greek. Ever since the Achaeans, Myceaneans etc until now, none can deny it...

What right do these CONQUERORS have to change this stability and want rights for themselves?

If the so called Cypriots spoke Greek, then yes, they have the right after their birth in Cyprus to be called Cypriots. Until then, they are Turks. I do not deny that they are born there, and been there for years, but why do we always have to neglect the circumstances? There was no sign of Turkish culture in Cyprus before 1570... What happened in 1570 started the decline of Cyprus, as we can see that some people are too much of "sheep" to understand what's really going on, and just listen to the political parties and idiot "peace" propaganda...

If you miltiades, went to England with 40.000 others of your race, and slaughtered a lot of English, lived in England and had families etc there, but still spoke your own language despite only controlling a small segment (by force) of England and saying that it should be official and that you are acknowledged as an Englishman, then the world would think you were mad...

Unfortunately with Cyprus, nobody cares... If some (foreign) people cared, Turks would have not been here for years now!

[zan]

Miltiades, I can see you are familiar with the English language, the main language of the country you live in!

Cyprus' language has always been throughout its history, Greek. Ever since the Achaeans, Myceaneans etc until now, none can deny it...

What right do these CONQUERORS have to change this stability and want rights for themselves?

If the so called Cypriots spoke Greek, then yes, they have the right after their birth in Cyprus to be called Cypriots. Until then, they are Turks. I do not deny that they are born there, and been there for years, but why do we always have to neglect the circumstances? There was no sign of Turkish culture in Cyprus before 1570... What happened in 1570 started the decline of Cyprus, as we can see that some people are too much of "sheep" to understand what's really going on, and just listen to the political parties and idiot "peace" propaganda...

If you miltiades, went to England with 40.000 others of your race, and slaughtered a lot of English, lived in England and had families etc there, but still spoke your own language despite only controlling a small segment (by force) of England and saying that it should be official and that you are acknowledged as an Englishman, then the world would think you were mad...

Unfortunately with Cyprus, nobody cares... If some (foreign) people cared, Turks would have not been here for years now!

You should change your name because you need two brain cells to make a klik noise.


What the hell do you care what happened in 1570. Stop talking rubbish about a time that makes no difference to your existence or mine. Try talking sense and just say you hate us for one reason and that is because we are Turkish. The year 1570 has gone but we are still here and will be for your life time and after.

[Klik]

What the hell do you care what happened in 1570. Stop talking rubbish about a time that makes no difference to your existence or mine. Try talking sense and just say you hate us for one reason and that is because we are Turkish. The year 1570 has gone but we are still here and will be for your life time and after.

Nice to be for once on topic!

So you are saying that there's no solution to the Cyprus problem "as we are still here and will be for your life time and after", right?

You do realise that YOU are the problem in Cyprus don't you? And there's no "peace" etc to be done. We are in peace time since 1974 until now(with a few small breaks, with the more significant being 1996)

When you yourselves understand that you are the problem of Cyprus, we probably could solve it. Right now, you have two choices, either learn Greek and communicate with CYPRIOTS in the language of Cyprus, or go back to Turkey and speak your filthy language with your COMPATRIOTS... The first would apply that you are officially Cypriots...

[zan]

What the hell do you care what happened in 1570. Stop talking rubbish about a time that makes no difference to your existence or mine. Try talking sense and just say you hate us for one reason and that is because we are Turkish. The year 1570 has gone but we are still here and will be for your life time and after.

Nice to be for once on topic!

So you are saying that there's no solution to the Cyprus problem "as we are still here and will be for your life time and after", right?

You do realise that YOU are the problem in Cyprus don't you? And there's no "peace" etc to be done. We are in peace time since 1974 until now(with a few small breaks, with the more significant being 1996)

When you yourselves understand that you are the problem of Cyprus, we probably could solve it. Right now, you have two choices, either learn Greek and communicate with CYPRIOTS in the language of Cyprus, or go back to Turkey and speak your filthy language with your COMPATRIOTS... The first would apply that you are officially Cypriots...

I have a third option that is to stay where I am and wave two fingers at people like you. It is you that is the problem and people like you. 37% of the island speaks very good Turkish and you and your ilk will ensure that they never learn Greek.


In the TRNC I am officially a Turkish Cypriot and I do not need an endorsement from you.

[Klik]

Then feel as good as you want in your non-existing state

[zan]

Then feel as good as you want in your non-existing state

32 years and counting.

[cypezokyli]

i thought of ignoring you , but excuse me!!
even the evrokokoi dont have such fascistic ideas !!

so let me start with what you posted a couple of pages ago :

Firstly, fascism: mixture of nationalist(right-wing) and syndicalist(left-wing) ideas. 70-30% respectively to be exact

Bullshit!!
I have had discussion with people who write exypnades of this kind.
it is an implicit attempt, to legitimize fascism. you write the above in a way as if "fascism" is just another ideology.
let me remind you that the people of europe faught and defeated fascism and paid with their lives to achieve that. the fascists in cyprus are one of the prime reasons that our country is devided.
if you wanted to give a two sentence definition about fascism, you could include at least the word "unacceptable" in your post. and not conviniently forget that part.
so leave aside this crapy attempts to present fascism as ideology or even worse as sth acceptable!


and the funny thing is that after you wrote that, you come along and claim :

I have nothing to do with left-wing and right-wing, it's about my country.

yeah right !!
let me inform you that such ideas exist only one of the two "wings". and that is the very extreme form of the one of those "wings". the exreme left has other stupidities but not as the ones you mention.

I'm supporting the right of Cyprus, throughout its history. And any sign of Turkish culture in Cyprus is bad.

its a discrace for cyprus to claim that you are supporting its rights!
its time for you to open your eyes and visit some of the muslim places we have in cyprus. they are reall beautiful. actually had you had the slightest idea about the beauty of cyprus, you would have appreciated that the beauty of cyprus its the mixture of cultures it has.

the assocition of cypriot archelogists published a book that you can find at the cyprus tourist organisation stands called " muslim places of worships in cyprus" ISBN 9963-38-950-3. visit KOT or the closest cypriot embassy from where you live and educate your self. you will be surprised how many of those are for archaeologists of significant historical and architectural value!

I'm supporting the right of Cyprus, throughout its history. And any sign of Turkish culture in Cyprus is bad. Turks have only done bad to us, and the existence of Turks trying to get called Cypriots it's a further proof of that. How can someone who is either a son of the soldier that came and killed over 500 years over 1.000.000 of my people or a few idiot compatriot of mine in the past sold their souls to become Turks and Muslim and deny their CYPRIOTHOOD be called Cypriots?

When people do a decent research on the formation of a Turkish community in Cyprus, they'll understand what I'm saying

Just by calling a Turk living in the north a Cypriot, it's treason and a stab in the back of your own ancestors...

more ahistorical crap!!!
get over it, history is not sth static.
it would actually be tragic if it were.
you are in practise saying that the son of a criminal is a criminal himself!! what kind of ideology or religion will ever support such a claim !!! for sure not the Greek. if you believe that with such ideas you are representing the greek civilasation , you are discrace to the greek spirit!
if we assume that the father or grandfather of gc X was an EOKA B fascist traitor , that means he should also be punished just because his grandfather betrayed cyprus !! great idea!!!

you have this stupid idea in your head, that history is somehow "first come first served" . well it is not !! (it is even more rediculous since the greeks were not even the first that cam here !!!)
get yourself a calendar , a world map and a history book and educated yourself. i really dont know what scares me the most in what you write ! is it the fact that it is extremely nationalist or extremely stupid ? the more i think about it i believe it is the second (ofcource the first doesnot necessarily exclude the second...and thats even a bigger problem )

just take a world map as it is today, with the borders and the people (or nations) that exist today around the world , and a map of the time where you want cyprus to return. if we assume that 2000+ years we have the time where we can claim that cyprus was at its peak of "greekness" , that means that around half of the world should moove back where its perceived ancestors lived 2000 years ago!! the other half should ofcource comit suicide since such civilization didnot exist 2000 years ago, and consequently they have no land or right to live!

i hope that you understand now how stupid is what you want to happen!!!

not to mention, there is no way that you can be sure who your ancestors were.
archaeologists claim that blue-and green eyed cypriots in some places of cyprus (like pistilia) is a concequence of wild sex with the french

10 years ago we were all shouting: Έξω οι Τούρκοι από την Κύπρο!
And at the same time, we lost 2 Cypriot heroes because of those that now some ignorant people call compatriots!!!

Well, no way in hell a Turkish speaking(1st language) person is a Cypriot.

The languages that were spoken by Cypriots in its entire history are:
Ancient Cypriot
Ancient Greek
Greek
Latin

Any other languages spoken were pure conquerors, not our compatriots.

Cyprus is for the Cypriots. Turks go out

since when is Latin a language of cyprus ? !!!
and lets not start with ancient cypriot bc that really disqualifies your claim about our greekness!

please dont tell me you are one of those who believe in the superior white race... ....on the other hand why would caccept latin as a language of cyprus and reject turkish


as for the slogans you posted it is once again rediculous. andry_cy already explained what people mean by that.

You do realise that YOU are the problem in Cyprus don't you?

No my friend , YOU are the problem in cyprus. the problem of cyprus is above all nationalism. it is those who like-minded fascists like you who have created all this mess we find ourselves today.

If the so called Cypriots spoke Greek, then yes, they have the right after their birth in Cyprus to be called Cypriots. Until then, they are Turks.

i dont think i have ever read so many stupidities from one person! ( kanoniko resital malakias)
since when is language what defines a cypriot ?
where the hell od you get this crap from ?
turkish is an official language of cyprus. and as for what makes a cypriot... read your constitution. you might learn a couple of things .

you can even choose seize to belong to the greek community and join the turkish if you want , but that you are still a cypriot. all in our constitution...

please stop posting this ideas in forums where people from abroad read such things. you are only harming your country.

[miltiades]

Klic , since you are such a knowledgeable chap on Cyprus's history , what do you propose to do with the T/Cs,
and what makes you call the Turkish language filthy . How would you react if a T/C called the language of your mother and father as well as that of an entire nation "filthy " Is this the way that we G/Cs are made to think that the T/Cs are filthy. Let me tell you what I think , and dont even think of retaliating with gutter language , I have met and dealt with your sort in the past and have exposed them for what they are. I have many T/C friends , people I have known for many years and some that I have known for a few months . I take offense when a fellow Cypriot attacks the defenceless , women and children who speak their mother tongue. I would find it extremely offensive if a T/C called the language that my granddaughter and my family as well as all other G/Cs spoke. If you have something constructive to offer please do so , but refrain from general insults since such beaviour is amunition to those that promote the permanent division of our Island , IF YOU CAN NOT SEE THIS THEN YOU ARE BLIND .

[miltiades]

Cypezokili , what an excellent post .Congratulations.
as for this ""is it the fact that it is extremely nationalist or extremely stupid ""

Your guess is as good as mine !!

[zan]

miltiades wrote:

How would you react if a T/C called the language of your mother and father as well as that of an entire nation "filthy "

If my parents started talking in Greek on a saturday night, when I was a child, my sisters and I knew that they were waiting for us to fall asleep so that they could leave us with my elder sister and go to the Turkish picture house. This is now a running joke in my family.