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[Snad]

It was like that in the UK many years ago, every young man had to do National Service, but they didn't expect foreigners to do it, so why should you?

Go live in UK if you don't want to do your National service!!!

[Denis_B]

Well, they haven't yet.

Anaka

Anaka you haven'y made it clear what you mean.

Foreigners not protecting Southern Cyprus? - well British troops are there

Turks not flexing muscles - well not until they realise can't get into the EU because no one wants them.

[annaka]

It was a bit vague, but I meant that during the 1974 crisis the British stood by and watched. However, they did help with the refugees who flooded into the bases - often with just the clothes they stood up in.

I know there was an attempt to help by Greece, but after reading Operation "Niki" 1974 (A suicide Mision to Cyprus by Mihail Solanakis), which took place on or around 21st July. Cyprus was on her own.

During an agreed Ceasefire, Turkey made their second invasion on 14th August and the rest of the world stood by and let them.

Hope I've made myself clearer.

Regards, Annaka.

[datalife]

all that you have said annaka is the truth. i want to hear what the other greek cypriot people are feeling. do you think that it is fair for all this foreign people to live in our country go to our schools and think that just because they pay taxes it is enough. i pay taxes so did my parents before me. their taxes paid for the schools to be built that all these foreign children now enjoy. we cypriots are alone in our fight for a free cyprus. all these foreign people do is remain here for as long as they can reap and if there are any proplems they will be out of here. we educate their children so that they can steal our childrens jobs. this is rubbish.
we need to make a stand. yes we want to do the right thing but we do not have to allow ourselves to be treated like we are stupid. why should we only earn £83 and yet a froeign boy that goes to svhool with my son will then leave school and when my son is being paid £83 in the army he will be earning £800. something needs to be done. me son will lose 2 years and this foreign boy will advance 2 years, on the blood of my son. again i say this is rubbish. these foreign people should not be given free health or free schooling and with the money saved we can then do more for our sons our soldiers

[G.Man]

all that you have said annaka is the truth. i want to hear what the other greek cypriot people are feeling. do you think that it is fair for all this foreign people to live in our country go to our schools and think that just because they pay taxes it is enough. i pay taxes so did my parents before me. their taxes paid for the schools to be built that all these foreign children now enjoy. we cypriots are alone in our fight for a free cyprus. all these foreign people do is remain here for as long as they can reap and if there are any proplems they will be out of here. we educate their children so that they can steal our childrens jobs. this is rubbish.
we need to make a stand. yes we want to do the right thing but we do not have to allow ourselves to be treated like we are stupid. why should we only earn £83 and yet a froeign boy that goes to svhool with my son will then leave school and when my son is being paid £83 in the army he will be earning £800. something needs to be done. me son will lose 2 years and this foreign boy will advance 2 years, on the blood of my son. again i say this is rubbish. these foreign people should not be given free health or free schooling and with the money saved we can then do more for our sons our soldiers

Datalife, why should I as a Brit, be forced to join your army for 2 years at the age of 41?

Don't bitch about the foreigners, bitch about the govt who enforce this stupid national service to gain unmotivated soldiers who would run a mile at the first sign of a fight (rightly so as war is stupid)..

And whats more they spend a fortune of your and my taxes to run this army...

If they didnt have this army, then maybe the taxes on the cars would be lower and you could even afford one...

Whats more, if the turks did decide to roll over the green line with all their military might, the GC conscripts would be masacred, and I sincerely hope that the British WOULD step in this time, after all, they got involved in Iraq and Afghanistan and we dont have bases there...

Heck, they may even be some oil to fight for...

And no foreign citizen receives free healthcare here, I have expensive private medical care as do my retired parents, but they receive some treatments which are paid for by the UK NHS they paid into for all their working lives... Just the same as you would recive if you went to a UK NHS hospital... we dont discriminate against you as a cypriot..

As for schooling, most I know send their children to private schools as they cannot do their lessons in Greek...

A greater understanding of the expatriate situation might lead you to less misdirected anger...

[Hogie]

Hi Datalife, I fully understand your thinking regarding your boy, it would probably be fairer, if a family have become Cypriot citizens, their children should do national service, i would have no problem with my grandson doing this, in my opinion, it is the best thing that can happen to a young man, maybe if the UK had the same rulling, we woudn't have so many criminals. However, i think you will find that most of the ex-pats pay for education, and have private health care insurance. My eight year old grandson will be going to a Greek School, as we want him to intregate with Cypriots, but then, we will be paying taxes, and so will he when he leaves school. You say paying taxes isn't enough? what would be enough?

[annaka]

My husband left Cyprus in 1952 aged 17 and was called up for British National Service in 1955-57. In those days there were courses for people who wanted to learn a trade - people who went to university at 18 had to do their national service afterwards. However, most people breathed a heavy sigh of relief when National Service ended in the early sixties.

Here in Cyprus, many young men say it is boring spending time in the army with not very much to do and feel it is a waste of time. In today's Cyprus Mail there is an article which seems to cover some of these problems.

There are also many young students from Cypriot families who have repatriated to Cyprus and attend private schools who have to do their full national service - 26 months. Then they are allowed to finish off their studies at university and join the job market, the same as the people attending Greek schools. The only difference being the expense of paying for private school which their parents choose to do for various reasons.

Regards, Anaka.

[Kifeas]

all that you have said annaka is the truth. i want to hear what the other greek cypriot people are feeling. do you think that it is fair for all this foreign people to live in our country go to our schools and think that just because they pay taxes it is enough. i pay taxes so did my parents before me. their taxes paid for the schools to be built that all these foreign children now enjoy. we cypriots are alone in our fight for a free cyprus. all these foreign people do is remain here for as long as they can reap and if there are any proplems they will be out of here. we educate their children so that they can steal our childrens jobs. this is rubbish.
we need to make a stand. yes we want to do the right thing but we do not have to allow ourselves to be treated like we are stupid. why should we only earn £83 and yet a froeign boy that goes to svhool with my son will then leave school and when my son is being paid £83 in the army he will be earning £800. something needs to be done. me son will lose 2 years and this foreign boy will advance 2 years, on the blood of my son. again i say this is rubbish. these foreign people should not be given free health or free schooling and with the money saved we can then do more for our sons our soldiers

Datalife, why should I as a Brit, be forced to join your army for 2 years at the age of 41?

Don't bitch about the foreigners, bitch about the govt who enforce this stupid national service to gain unmotivated soldiers who would run a mile at the first sign of a fight (rightly so as war is stupid)..

And whats more they spend a fortune of your and my taxes to run this army...

If they didnt have this army, then maybe the taxes on the cars would be lower and you could even afford one...

Whats more, if the turks did decide to roll over the green line with all their military might, the GC conscripts would be masacred, and I sincerely hope that the British WOULD step in this time, after all, they got involved in Iraq and Afghanistan and we dont have bases there...

On what basis do you beilive that if the Turkish Army decides to "roll over" the green line, the GC conscripts will either be massacred or run away? Are you saying that the Turks are better and more brave fighters, even though most of them are also conscripts? Do you think that if the Turkish army decides to roll over, it will only be the 12,000, 18-20 year old conscripts that will face them? Don't you know that all men from 20-50 that live along the green line, some 50,000 first call reservists, are all sleeping with their weapons, uniforms and ammunition at home, organized in battalions along the green line, and that within half to 1 hour from the time the Turks will show signs of their intentions to "roll over," they will be faced with a force of 50,000 troops in front of them, and another one of an additional 50,000 recervist troops within the next 3-4 hours coming from the back? Do you think that in case of a war, we will live the 18-20 year olds to defend our country, properties, wives and children? Or do you think that the 40,000 18-22 years old Turkish army conscripts will put up with and equal number of 20-40 year old mature men fighting for the lives of their children and parents and the honor of their wives and daughters?

I tell you something! In case of a scenario like the one you describe, definitely one of the two sides will be on the run; however, this will not be the GC one!

And do not worry, we do not need you to join the Cypriot army! We will do well on our own!

[Bananiot]

Treason! If its so easy, why do we not attack first and gain a strategic advantage? Why wait to be attacked?

[Kifeas]

Treason!

Treason?