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[cypezokyli]

shocking indeed. the information seems to have been once again created! the person and the organisation (which are the same thing!!!!!) who came up with this info is a joke. just read here :
http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb ... rticles&-p

[Piratis]

shocking indeed. the information seems to have been once again created! the person and the organisation (which are the same thing!!!!!) who came up with this info is a joke. just read here :
http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb ... rticles&-p

Singed by: Makarios Drousiotis It could also be by Loucas Charalambous.

I don't know how trustworthy the organization that wrote the report is, but we already know very well the "journalists" in Cyprus that can not be trusted at all since everything they say has as an aim to harm Cyprus and our government. They proved this time after time.

The article from Drousiotis says very little about the issue. All he is trying to do is to discredit the author and help the Turks get away with their crimes.

I don't know about the "investigations" of Drousiotis, however I know a few things about Amazon, which Makarios is trying to use to supposedly prove something.
1) Books, magazines etc that are for a very specific niche market often do not have reviews.
2) I just checked and most (all?) magazines at Amazon.com are only shipped within the US.

Of course Drousiotis didn't notice these obvious things since he didn't really do any investigation as he claims. He just reproduced the information that was given to him from Ankara to help the Turks out (as he usually does)

"Defense and Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy" is quoted in at least 48 books by various authors:
http://books.google.com/books?q=%22Defe ... s&as_brr=0

Personally I don't know if the claims about the Greek Cypriots are true. What it is certain however is that the article by Drousiotis is totally useless, since his only aim is, as always, to attack our government, and nothing beyond that.

Maybe some real journalist will investigate the report and give us some better information. "Internet Investigations" we can do ourselves and do them better, we don't need Drousiotis.

[Piratis]

By the way cypezokyli, you (correctly) took the ISSA report with scepticism. But Drousiotis report you accepted without any questioning. Why is that? As you understand you are no better than those that immidietly accepted the ISSA report to the letter.

[Bananiot]

Droushiotis is one of the few serious investigators in Cyprus. His worked has never been officially challenged but always it is challenged in a nebulous and fascistic way of the type "he is interested only to hurt our governemnt". He has been silenced by the state run media and he has never been invited to air his views. We need more people like Droushiotis in Cyprus to shake up the people from the nauseating grip of the totalitarean regime that is strangling freedom of speech by pronouncing "traitor" every person that does not abide to the directives of our dictator.

[Piratis]

By the way, I just noticed that the first publication in the list I gave that mentions Defense and Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy is by United States. Congress. House. Committee on Foreign Affairs.

Maybe the United States Congress is also run by Papadopoulos and we didn't know? Lets ask Drousiotis to tell us

[Piratis]

Bananiot our president was elected in fully democratic way. Fascists are those that want to impose their foreign motivated interests against the democratically expressed will of the Cypriot people.

I just proved parts of what "serious" Drousiotis said as bullshit within 5 minutes. And then you say that his work has never been challenged!! Just fewer and fewer people bother with his crap as it is obvious how "serious" he is now.

Since I was at Google Books I made a Search about "Makarios Drousiotis" to see if anybody worthy mentions him. It did turn one result: Sexual Interactions: The Social Construction of Atypical Sexual Behaviors

Drousiotis used to be a good journalist, but just like many others he had a price. I guess he was a good bargain

[cypezokyli]

shocking indeed. the information seems to have been once again created! the person and the organisation (which are the same thing!!!!!) who came up with this info is a joke. just read here :
http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb ... rticles&-p

Singed by: Makarios Drousiotis It could also be by Loucas Charalambous.

I don't know how trustworthy the organization that wrote the report is, but we already know very well the "journalists" in Cyprus that can not be trusted at all since everything they say has as an aim to harm Cyprus and our government. They proved this time after time.

The article from Drousiotis says very little about the issue. All he is trying to do is to discredit the author and help the Turks get away with their crimes.

I don't know about the "investigations" of Drousiotis, however I know a few things about Amazon, which Makarios is trying to use to supposedly prove something.
1) Books, magazines etc that are for a very specific niche market often do not have reviews.
2) I just checked and most (all?) magazines at Amazon.com are only shipped within the US.

Of course Drousiotis didn't notice these obvious things since he didn't really do any investigation as he claims. He just reproduced the information that was given to him from Ankara to help the Turks out (as he usually does)

"Defense and Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy" is quoted in at least 48 books by various authors:
http://books.google.com/books?q=%22Defe ... s&as_brr=0

Personally I don't know if the claims about the Greek Cypriots are true. What it is certain however is that the article by Drousiotis is totally useless, since his only aim is, as always, to attack our government, and nothing beyond that.

Maybe some real journalist will investigate the report and give us some better information. "Internet Investigations" we can do ourselves and do them better, we don't need Drousiotis.

typical piratis answer

the person who every second post refers to FACTS (usually with capital letters) , isnot really interested in reading any facts that dont fit his position, following neo-fascistic neo-nazi (another often used term in piratis post) of slander :

He just reproduced the information that was given to him from Ankara to help the Turks out (as he usually does)

if you have the balls prove that. or else you have no difference from a fascist (or "the americans" you so often enjoy accusing).

as usual, you failed to read the essence of the article and you are conserned with minor details :

can you or can you not prove FACTUALLY (u know that word... it is the one you too often write in capital letters) wrong what is in the above article ?

- is it true or is it false that this organisation with the fancy name, is made by one person ? yes or no ?

- is it true or is it false that this person is promoting the axis-of-evil theories and has supported christians in all conflicts that took place against muslims ? (sounds like bush himself)

- is it true or is it wrong that this person predicted in 1999 that if the USA invaded yugoslavia the effect would have been (with 90% probability ) a war in asia and especially with korea ?

- is it true or is it false that continuing the above analysis he predicted irak reattacking quweit, saoudi aradia attacking iran, and that greece would kick the turks out of cyprus ?

- is it true or is it false that this person claimed in 2003 that the false evidence on which the US attack on iraq was based were created by libya ? (nice friends you have piratis )

- is it true or is it false that this person made an analysis some time ago called : "Turkey, Installing New Chief of General Staff, Escalates Plans for Operations in Iraqi Kurdistan, and in the Aegean, and Retains Key Links with Iran". Exclusive. Analysis. From GIS Stations in South-East Europe, Ankara, and Mosul. claiming not only that turkey would invade iraq, but (his sources!!!) also predicted a military dispute with greece october-november of 2006 ? !!!
take care piratis it is already 29 october, war might brake any minute now. is your gun clean and ready ?
(did you read that the turk general who planned the above attack will be visiting athens 1-4 november after an invitation from the greek head of the army ? ...... OMG perhaps there is a conspiracy , with sold-traitors in the greek army!!!! )

- or do you want me to go on translating the "highly respected analysis " of this "highly respected think tank" !!!!


can you or can you not falsify any of the above ?

all the rest is pure propaganda. not to mention no respect for the people who have missing relatives

[Piratis]

And how any of the above has anything to do with the Greek Cypriots that were used in the Turkish Laboratories? Does Drousitoris prove this claim as wrong, or is he trying to discredit the organization that made this claim simply because if true such thing would hurt the interests of those that finance him?

To the questions that you are asking me "true or false", personally I don't care since they have nothing to do with the particular case. However how do you know if they are all true?

Were I proved him wrong is on subjects that I do know about, but for you those were details, as apparently Drousitoris is allowed not be 100% factual, while if others make some mistakes it means that everything they ever wrote about should be necessarily false.

No Analyst is ever 100% correct. Are you saying that because an analyst (who is writing for 15+ years) was wrong in some of his predictions it means that all facts he ever wrote about are false?? Don't you ask yourself why his reports are quoted in so many books, including publications by the US Congress?

Drousitis has simply made an attempt to discredit the person, NOT to prove his findings as wrong. And we all know very well what motivated him to do so.

[Pyrpolizer]

Droushiotis is one of the few serious investigators in Cyprus. His worked has never been officially challenged

It has not been challenged because it has no basis to challenge. ALL his work is based on arbitrary conclussions.

". He has been silenced by the state run media and he has never been invited to air his views.

Never???? May I remind you that when he initially showed up, every media was inviding him because it was an interesting new voice.
Out of the hundreds of media only 1 is state controlled the RIK. Yet you are right nobody gives him airing time anymore, simply because the media feel responsibility against their viewers/listeners/readers. The media want people who can stand by their claims not fairy tail writters who like to sell books full with conspiracy theories and fancy allegations. Besides the man is a terrible speaker, he falters when he speaks and this makes TV vewers nervous and anxious to switch to another channel.

Droushiotis is Cyprus’s one and only conspiracy theory maker!

We need more people like Droushiotis in Cyprus to shake up the people from the nauseating grip of the totalitarean regime that is strangling freedom of speech by pronouncing "traitor" every person that does not abide to the directives of our dictator.

Yes Bananiot, go live in the pseudo where you will get all the freedom of speech you wish, plus all airing time on news as your might wish, as long as you speak against Talat and Ankara.

[cypezokyli]

usual laughing faces from pyrpolizer

what you forgot to tmentio was that : the international organisation Reporters Without Borders gave to makarios droussiotis its 2005 Press Freedom Award.