Cyprus-Forum.com

by **Simon** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:26 pm

[quote]And your fiscal and business policy is.[/quote]

That's right Zan, keep up your informative, constructive posts. :roll:

by **zan** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:29 pm

Simon wrote:
And your fiscal and business policy is.

That's right Zan, keep up your informative, constructive posts.

Give me some thing intelligent to reply to and then who knows.

by **Simon** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:32 pm

You wouldn't know intelligent if it jumped up and punched you on the nose. All you know is wise cracks when you run out of things to say. You have proved this time and time again. "Long live the TRNC." That's your intelligent contribution. :roll:

by **zan** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:41 pm

Simon wrote:You wouldn't know intelligent if it jumped up and punched you on the nose. All you know is wise cracks when you run out of things to say. You have proved this time and time again. "Long live the TRNC." That's your intelligent contribution.

No that is my wish and your dilemma. Because it does not concur with your idea of a peaceful settlement it is stupid. There is only one thing that is stupid and that is forced unification of factions that are hostile to one another. Your agenda acts as a blindfold to this fact and is not only stupid (to use your ideal terminology) but dangerous. My wise cracks are for intelligent people that can read between the lines and are also fed up with repeating the same old rubbish.

by **Simon** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:57 pm

No Zan, it is stupid because it does not concur with any peaceful settlement. Do you really think that if Turkey stopped all negotiations today, and stated that the 'TRNC' was here for good, forget your stolen properties etc, that would bring about peace?

It suits your purposes to make out that GCs and TCs are so 'hostile' to each other. I'm sorry but this is inaccurate and misleading. The border is open, GCs and TCs are in regular contact, there is no hostility. Our hostility is towards Turkey and her troops, not genuine TCs. If TCs dislike GCs so much that they do not wish to live with them, then why did they vote 'Yes' for the AP? Who said anything about forced? We will vote on a solution, remember? This is just Turkish propoganda to stop unification. You are just a clone of VP. I don't think you understand the concept of 'illegal.' What you have in the north is illegal. This means that legality MUST be restored, whatever way we choose to do it.

Your 'wise cracks' are for intelligent people that can read between the lines? :lol:

Listen to yourself. Nobody needs to read between the lines to know your intentions. You are not interested and never have been in true unification. "Long live the TRNC" :roll:

by **zan** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:14 pm

Simon wrote:No Zan, it is stupid because it does not concur with any peaceful settlement. Do you really think that if Turkey stopped all negotiations today, and stated that the 'TRNC' was here for good, forget your stolen properties etc, that would bring about peace?

It suits your purposes to make out that GCs and TCs are so 'hostile' to each other. I'm sorry but this is inaccurate and misleading. The border is open, GCs and TCs are in regular contact, there is no hostility. Our hostility is towards Turkey and her troops, not genuine TCs. If TCs dislike GCs so much that they do not wish to live with them, then why did they vote 'Yes' for the AP? Who said anything about forced? We will vote on a solution, remember? This is just Turkish propoganda to stop unification. You are just a clone of VP. I don't think you understand the concept of 'illegal.' What you have in the north is illegal. This means that legality MUST be restored, whatever way we choose to do it.

Your 'wise cracks' are for intelligent people that can read between the lines? Listen to yourself. Nobody needs to read between the lines to know your intentions. You are not interested and never have been in true unification. "Long live the TRNC"

And we do not have to read between the lines to see your intention. Return all the property no matter what. If I am a clone of VP then you are a clone of Piratis and a warmonger. Your form of legality will bring about much more illegalities than ever. There can be no peace in what you propose. Mine at least will give less reason to those that seek war. Long live the TRNC as long as they decide it so in their own democratic republic.

by **Simon** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:31 pm

My intention is a return to legality. You are so brainwashed by Turkish propoganda that you cannot even see this. In every situation where it is possible for land to be returned, it should be given as an option to the land owner.

A warmonger? This is sooo rich coming from somebody who supports Turkish actions. I'm a warmonger because I will not let my country stay under occupation forever. How ridiculous. Lets have the Kurds occupy 37% of Turkey and then see how many Turks are warmongers.

I honestly cannot see how allowing 200,000 people to have the option of returning to their homes can create MORE illegality. Illegality is happening every single day on a massive scale when people cannot return home.

[quote]There can be no peace in what you propose.[/quote]

Why? Because Turkish colonisation would be threatened?

[quote]Mine at least will give less reason to those that seek war.[/quote]

You must be kidding :shock:

[quote]Long live the TRNC as long as they decide it so in their own democratic republic.[/quote]

Your problem is Zan, the 'TRNC' will not live long because it is an illegal republic.

by **Piratis** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:36 pm

There is only one thing that is stupid and that is forced unification of factions that are hostile to one another.

What is not only stupid, but also illegal and criminal, is stealing our lands and performing ethnic cleansing against us. So take it for granted that there will be no peace until our land is returned to us.

You have no right to keep us away from our homeland, but still if you honestly believe that TCs and GCs can not live together then sell your land in Cyprus and move elsewhere, this is something you have every right to do.

If keeping GCs and TCs apart is the only way for peace, and since there will never be peace until our land is returned to us, then the only (based on your theory) solution is to send TCs to Turkey. Or maybe keeping TCs and GCs apart is only OK as long as TCs are gaining on our loss?

Come on Zan, cut the excuses about peace and all that. All you want is to keep the land you stole from us. Just admit it.

by **zan** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:45 pm

Simon wrote:My intention is a return to legality. You are so brainwashed by Turkish propoganda that you cannot even see this. In every situation where it is possible for land to be returned, it should be given as an option to the land owner.

A warmonger? This is sooo rich coming from somebody who supports Turkish actions. I'm a warmonger because I will not let my country stay under occupation forever. How ridiculous. Lets have the Kurds occupy 37% of Turkey and then see how many Turks are warmongers.

I honestly cannot see how allowing 200,000 people to have the option of returning to their homes can create MORE illegality. Illegality is happening every single day on a massive scale when people cannot return home.

There can be no peace in what you propose.

Why? Because Turkish colonisation would be threatened?

Mine at least will give less reason to those that seek war.

You must be kidding

Long live the TRNC as long as they decide it so in their own democratic republic.

Your problem is Zan, the 'TRNC' will not live long because it is an illegal republic.

Turkey does not occupy 37%, we do, the indigenous Turkish Cypriots. Your propaganda relies on blaming Turkey and bypassing the Turkish Cypriots. I am talking to you as a Turkish Cypriot and you talk over my head at Turkey. Why don't you just copy and paste everything from Piratis' posts that way you will not have to think too much. You talk of colonisation as if EOKA and ENOSIS never happened, how convenient. If the TRNC does not live for long then that will mean that a fair agreement has been reached and the RoC has changed its hard line stance. That will be the decision of the TRNC to vote on at the time and not because you have closed your eyes, clicked your heals and whispered "There's no place like home" Dorothy.

by **Simon** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:59 pm

[quote]Turkey does not occupy 37%, we do, the indigenous Turkish Cypriots. Your propaganda relies on blaming Turkey and bypassing the Turkish Cypriots. I am talking to you as a Turkish Cypriot and you talk over my head at Turkey.[/quote]

You really are an idiot if you believe this. :roll:

It is Turkey that controls the 'TRNC' not TCs. Talat is a puppet for Turkey, you are blind. Is it TCs or Turkish troops that stole our land? :roll:

Turkey could annex the 'TRNC' at a blinks notice, like they threatened to if the RoC got into the EU, do you think you would have any say. :lol:

What about the 100,000+ settlers? Did the indigenous TCs have any say in this dramatic demographic alteration? No part of your ideology is Cypriot, you are a pure Turk.

[quote]Why don't you just copy and paste everything from Piratis' posts that way you will not have to think too much.[/quote]

Why don't you just stop posting altogether, as VP spreads enough Turkish propoganda for both of you.

[quote]You talk of colonisation as if EOKA and ENOSIS never happened, how convenient.[/quote]

Enosis was about 82% of the population of Cyprus not having a say in the political future of their island. Another illegality. Colonisation is about Turkey stealing land, and placing over 100,000 Turks on it.

[quote]If the TRNC does not live for long then that will mean that a fair agreement has been reached and the RoC has changed its hard line stance.[/quote]

No, it will mean the EU has helped us in overturning Turkey's hard stance and restoring legality.

Cyprus-Forum.com

New UN chief raises Cypriot hopes though his first statement

Who is online