Piratis,yes after the massacres were started by the GC side there were numerous others on both sides but as I said Greek propoganda is good. I agree Turkey should pull out of the north as there is no longer a possibility of the Greek Cypriots starting more killings and the perhaps you will start to forgive and forget but I get the impression that you are one person who will not entertain such an idea.
GCs started the killings? When did this happen? You are so full of shit my friend. GCs have been killed and oppressed by the Turks from the 15th century until today. How exactly did GCs "started" the killings?
I pointed out to my friends that the beaches in the north is one of the many reasons to visit good and posted the note saying the young ladies are attractive but for you to say that either of these facts has anything to do with propoganda is an inane argument.
If TC girls are pretty or not, or if the beaches in the occupied Cyprus are nice or not how does it relate to the Cyprus problem and how does it make the illegality of the occupation any less illegal? Why did you use such "arguments" in relation to the Cyprus Problem?
Most people have principles and they wouldn't buy something stolen or support an illegality. If during WWI they were describing to you how nice it is jewelry made out of the golden teeth of executed Jews, would you base your decision of whether to buy the Jewelry or not based on how good the Jewelry was?
The same case for Cyprus. People with principles and conscience would not support the illegalities, period. How nice those beaches stolen from RoC are, or how nice the TC girls are, is something totally irrelevant to anybody with some conscience. What is important is that an illegality and a crime is committed by Turkey in Cyprus and nobody should support the people that insist on such illegalities.
And all these things happened out of thin air and because the TCs and Turkey felt so mean that they thought they would take 37% of their island. Don't hide behind your finger Piratis your side is just as much to blame as we are so stop trying to lay blame clearly on our door.
No, the only thing that happened out of "thin air" was the initial invasion of Turks in Cyprus and the subsequent 300 of oppression against GCs. (or you are going to blame us for that also?) The 1974 invasion didn't happen out of thin air. The coup gave them the excuse they wanted to put into action their plans predating 1960 for partition.
Today is the result of our actions of the past if you are not happy then you have to work with Tcs to try an build a joint future.
If it is a result of
our actions then why should I be penalized and you rewarded on my loss? There is no way to work with TCs, as so far you insist on using the 40.000 Turkish troops to force
illegalities against us.
The last attempt at reunification was may I remind you rejected by yourselves
We rejected no attempt for unification. You accepted an attempt for partition which was rejected by us.
and nothing has happened since because you intent on using your EU leverage to extract your demands from Turkey.
The EU "leverage" is a perfectly legal one. On the other hand you are tyring to force us into capitulation using a 40.000 illegal occupation army occupying the north part of our country.
Your violations while we had the only opportunity to build a united Cyprus were OK during 1963 to 1974 and you have conveniently forgotten them
I never forgotten them. How about a bet: I will find you
many posts that I condemn those violations. Now will you also finally accept and condemn your violations during the same period? Because you are the one who is conveniently forgetting things. Does TMT ring a bell to you? How about the 100s of GC casualties between 63 and 74? Do you remember those, or you remember only what you want to excuse yet more crimes against us?
You advocate GC administered democracy and human rights for all "Cypriots" yet you don't know how to get there.
I advocate Cypriot administered democracy and human rights. Something that you always rejected because you want to partition our country.
All you know is that we TCs should submit to GC demands and accept living in a GC states run by GCs.
Never said such thing unless for you Cypriots are only the GCs.
Ain't gonna happen, you need to revise how you see the TC role in a united Cyprus as we will never again be reduced to minority status under the thumb of the GC majority.
18% is a minority. It is ridiculous to even argue against this. The fact that this 18% wants many times more than what it proportionally belongs to them on the expense of all the rest, and they are trying to use military means to achieve it is disgusting.
You can expect this once you have agreed the framework of how you will live united with those people, put in place the mechanism for what you demand and then I will show you all the respect you demand but as long as you advocate returning to GC domination I will continue as I am
I advocate democracy as it exists in all other countries. What you advocate is illegalities and yet more crimes against us, as you are used to do since the day you set your food on this island.
until a time you either see sense and accept we are equals
You can have proportional power and everything, and be equal Cypriot citizens. But what you mean by "equals" is that you want your 18% minority to have 50% power which is
undemocratic. The day that Turkey gives to the Greek minority of Turkey 50% power, then come and ask for that as well in Cyprus.
or the swing of power goes your way and blow all TCs to kingdom come and finish off what you started back in 1963.
Who started the killings are the Turks and they continue until today with their illegalities and crimes against us.
