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[Ascot]

Shoushouco you need to wake up. Before you can accuse Strahd of being a Turkish propagandist you should read all of his posts on this forum-if you can read that is- and you will see he is nothing but. Of course we can be in denial and agree with Strahd when he is against the TC's and disagree with him when he speaks the truth with substance and excerpts out of the constitution to back it up. It is too bad you don't like it but it is the truth. I am not speaking on whether the constitution is right or wrong here, but the truth is IT EXISTS!!!(surprise, surprise). In the constitution there are allowances for people to fly the Turkish or Greek flag if they feel like it. We signed it and the Tc's signed it. We might not like it now but that's how it is. We also have 2 tongues. The Greek and the Turkish tongue. We might not like it but that is how it is. In our Government there are specific positions that need be filled by either GC's ot TCs(e.g. President and vice-president). We might not like it but that's how it is. So Maybe the Ottoman empire invaded 350 somewhat years ago and that's how the TC's got here. Well even if that's the truth they been living here for that many years and it kind of becomes their country too, like it or not. I am sure you didn't read anything in the bible where god created Adam and Eve, about Him giving Cyprus to only the Greeks, so spare me. We got here somehow too. Cyprus belongs to all its people, no matter their origin and until fanatics like yourself and a couple of others on this forum, put it through their thick skulls, it will stay divided the way it is. So you can go ahead and blame Turkey for all its worth for the invasion, but your attitudes aren't helping with finding a solution any. Grow the hell up and think outside the box.

As about andri_cy....i think "one" should refer her to the Cyprus government, so as to have her citizenship 'Revoked"
She would best suited to apply for Turkish Republic citizenship!

[Mem]

Sorry I've been so long in my reply, but I do have a life.
Turkish land built upon includes, Larnaca Airport FACT, part of Paphos Airport FACT, and many more instances of Government buildings, Power Stations etc. The only Turkish land used for private homes (that we know of) was for refugees, who would now like their deeds and so they should.
Yes, my friend SOME of the people who tried to alter and forge deeds are in Jail....................but all of them? I rest my case.
I am aware that brain washed British Residents in the South (I was one)and those educated through the Greek Cypriot system since the 70's will never believe that this so called EU country could be gulty of lies and fraud. Which it most certainly is. A 'Past 'Terrorist runs the country and a leopard never changes its spots.
Some of the older Greek Cypriot are aware of what was happening in the 50's and 60's and Europe has been slow to realise the big mistake it made in admitting South Cyprus to the EU when it said no to peace and that fact has only made the process of some kind of reunification all the more difficult.

[Mem]

Ascot,
No Kangaroo Courts??????????????????????????????????????
No Police Corruption????????????????????????????????????//

You can't live in the South if you think that.

[Alexis]

Turlish Cypriots where at one time the main land owners as they where farmers, this land was forceably removed from them,.

I'd like to know more about this. When did this happen? During British rule perhaps, or perhaps you dispute the land ownership figures from 1963 and 1960 and you think this happened in 1964? My uncle is a dairy farmer. He had a farm near Kythrea. Up until 1974 that is...

[cypezokyli]

Sorry I've been so long in my reply, but I do have a life.
Turkish land built upon includes, Larnaca Airport FACT, part of Paphos Airport FACT, and many more instances of Government buildings, Power Stations etc. The only Turkish land used for private homes (that we know of) was for refugees, who would now like their deeds and so they should.
Yes, my friend SOME of the people who tried to alter and forge deeds are in Jail....................but all of them? I rest my case.
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you are confusing things. and things that are significant.
a goverment (and by that i mean every goverment in the world) has a right, for the good of the whole society to take land from certain individuals and compensating them as a result. (i believe the english word for that is expropriate). the goverment has a fund where it should be saving money to give to all those people that it has used their property. (according to some press articles there are not enough money in that fund, but there is no way that a citizen will loose his money).

mind you, (as you may know) we (and all the rest) dont recognize the goverment of north, but in case of a solution i can assure you we are not asking back for land that has been exapropriated for the good of the whole society.


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refuggees had to stay somewhere, and there were a lot of them. if you follow the news though, a refuggee was kicked out of the residence he received in the south, bc a tc claimed it and received it.

there are no title deeds gien to refuggees who are currently living on tc land. we often make mistakes...we are not stupid.

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you can take that as a complement. our land registry system is working so well, bc it was made by the british during the colonial times. believe me we know, what belongs to whom till the last square cm, of this land. believe me , we do.

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i know it might be difficult but try making an effort : there is no turkish land in cyprus.... only turkish cypriot one

[andri_cy]

As about andri_cy....i think "one" should refer her to the Cyprus government, so as to have her citizenship 'Revoked"
She would best suited to apply for Turkish Republic citizenship!

You think they will revoke my citizenship because I said that Tc's have rights too? Well they can try and if they succeed it will not be or their own good, as this CAN be used against them for Turkish propaganda. Ascot go drink your milk and go to bed before your mommy grounds you.

[Kartal_Aetos]

Ascot, you are way out of line...Andri_Cy was stating that TC's have equal rights to GC's...This is something any human being would do...You do not deny someone has rights...Maybe you are on the wrong forum and are better suited to a pro-fascist forum...Ottoman's didn't take cyprus from Greeks anyway...The Byzantium empire lost the island hundreds of years before that...they didnt take anything from greeks...they took it from the venetians, who took it off the lusignan's and so on...dont feel so hard done by it...wars and conquests are a part of history and they have happened now...byzantium took the island from the knights...should the knights templar hold a grudge against greeks? its silly point...the important thing is that there is now one island, two cultures, ONE RACE...Cypriots...some of you will say that this is bullshit, then fine...you will fight for ur cause...but i will fight for mine...the important thing is that we should not hate each other...we are all children born from the same mother, Cyprus...

Andri, I applaud your statements...

[Natty]

one island, two cultures, ONE RACE

[Ascot]

As about andri_cy....i think "one" should refer her to the Cyprus government, so as to have her citizenship 'Revoked"
She would best suited to apply for Turkish Republic citizenship!

You think they will revoke my citizenship because I said that Tc's have rights too? Well they can try and if they succeed it will not be or their own good, as this CAN be used against them for Turkish propaganda. Ascot go drink your milk and go to bed before your mommy grounds you.

My dear,

NOT ONLY THE TURKISH PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS! THIS IS COMMON SENSE. GOES WITHOUT SAYING!

" ARE YOU TRYING TO TEACH YOUR MOTHER HOW TO MAKE LOVE?'

One could interpreted this as discriminating towards Turkish people.
And this is what i highlighted and an issue.

But she is Turkish biased. She has probably genes. Good luck.

[Kifeas]

All too often I come across the following reference:

Please pay attention to Mr Erdogan, Mr Gul & Talat, how they are keep referring to Cypriots!.

Greek Cypriot, Turkish Cypriot.

Such is the propaganda of the Turkish government, that we Cypriots, fall into a trap to use the same terminology and references.

When one analyze those references the following connotations arise:

They give the impression and also legitimacy to arguments of division (between ethnicities) and also the impression that we are part of the Greek nation.

You are right Mickleham! It was always the Turkish policy that in Cyprus there exist two distinctly different peoples, and therefore as such they are both entitled to their separate self-determination rights. It was an invention on their part that was used to first defeat the idea of enosis, then to demand separate political rights in the constitution, and later to promote the idea of partition as an expression of the TC's separate self-determination rights. Up to this day they continue to insist on this approach, and unfortunately some Greek Cypriot "Tsoglania" that out of foolish pseudo super-patriotic sentiments repeat the same self-defeating claims, i.e. that indeed in Cyprus there are two different and separate peoples, the Greeks and the Turks; without these suckers realizing that in this way they basically dance in the tunes of the zurnas that the Turkish official propaganda is playing.

Apparently, the very same Turkish propaganda masterminds do not accept the same theories in the case of the Kurdish people living in Turkey, and they refuse to recognize to them any such status and rights of a separate people, but instead accept them only as plain “mountain Turks.”