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Postby Ascot » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:59 pm

In the case of Iraq the targets are:
1. USA Puppet Irag government.
2. Tap on the second largest reserves of OIL.

CIVILIAN OR MULITARY LIVES LOST NOT AN ISSUE.
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Postby Simon » Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:27 am

Cypezokyli,

I agree with you that the US has messed up in Iraq. However, my point stands that it is mainly Islamic extremists killing Iraqis today, not the US.

Secondly, none of the above is any excuse for suicide bombings, and arguing that the US are just as bad as the suicide bombers is ludicrous. The US/UK do not intentionally look to kill citizens. The individuals that do are punished according to the rule of law. There are better ways for individuals to make their point, just look at Martin Luther King, Gandhi etc. I do believe the US care (or at least some in the administration do) but their mistakes are kind of irreversible.

[quote]the americans dont have/need to become suicide bombers for reasons that i hope i dont have to explain. [/quote]

Nobody needs to have suicide bombers for reasons that I hope I don't have to explain. :wink:
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Postby MARIKKOU » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:10 pm

Simon wrote:Cypezokyli,

I agree with you that the US has messed up in Iraq. However, my point stands that it is mainly Islamic extremists killing Iraqis today, not the US.

Secondly, none of the above is any excuse for suicide bombings, and arguing that the US are just as bad as the suicide bombers is ludicrous. The US/UK do not intentionally look to kill citizens. The individuals that do are punished according to the rule of law. There are better ways for individuals to make their point, just look at Martin Luther King, Gandhi etc. I do believe the US care (or at least some in the administration do) but their mistakes are kind of irreversible.

the americans dont have/need to become suicide bombers for reasons that i hope i dont have to explain.


Nobody needs to have suicide bombers for reasons that I hope I don't have to explain. :wink:


I think the political view in Iraq was replacing the Sunni domination with shites. The reasoning was that shites are the majority of the in Iraq.

The suicide bombers have taken the occupiers by surprise.
This was due to the dismantling of the powerful Iraq army.

Also the fact that by dissolving the army all the munitions storage's have been emptied and to-date all the munitions are used against the civilians in this sectarian war.

God bless US and UK army, for such a "splendid clean job"
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Postby cypezokyli » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:21 am

just as side statement. not all attacks are done from "suicide" bombers (actually most of them are not) . many are bombs from trapped cars, or other "inventions". many others are pure slaughters from armed militia. certainly there hae been suicide attacks, but their significance in what is happening in iraq is limited.

it just suits us to exagurate that. it gives us nice arguments...
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Postby Simon » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:39 am

Marikkou:

[quote]God bless US and UK army, for such a "splendid clean job"[/quote]

Who said they have done a "splendid clean job"?

Cypezokyli, I agree with your analysis, however, may I point out that suicide bombings do not only happen in Iraq.
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Postby andri_cy » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:37 pm

Simon, I believe Marikkou was being "sarcastic". Everyone knows the US has screwed up big time in Iraq and now they are trying to save face. I believe that as a country(that I now live in) we meddle into business we have no right or call to. A lot of times I wish I was back in Cyprus, the only thing keeping me here is the salaries. It seems it has become so hard to live and support your family in Cyprus nowadays. I cant wait till we retire in Limassol :D ( In a looooooong looooong time)
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Postby MARIKKOU » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:47 pm

andry_cy is right!

Of course the Americans or rather the Bush admin and Britain (the 55th state of US) have failed miserably in Iraq

It reminds me of pictures i have seeing (US) deserting Vietnam, Saigon and throwing Helicopters off the battleships into the sea.....and packing whatever they could pack in a hurry and leaving the people of Vietnam to decide for themselves there own leadership and future!

The time has approach when the Americans will have to leave Iraq in shame!

I, feel, for the loss of life and the innocent people who perished but more i feel about the families of the dead who lost there love ones.
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