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Turkey should be dismantled for Peace

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Postby shoushoucos » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:42 pm

mehmet wrote:If, and it's a big if, there is an independent Kurdish state in northern Iraq, why is this thought to lead to break up of Turkey? Kosovo isn't necessarily join with Albania because for the Kosovan's this would be against their interests, having had a different history they have different perspectives. Every nation, even Israel (eventually) will have to conclude that it is better to be at peace than at war with your neighbours, and the Kurds of northern Iraq will need to be at peace with Turkey and Iran. What do you think the price for that peace will be?



From the arguments i read here i concluded the eventual break up of Tourkia
The Anglo-Saxons will eventually divided it into pieces. May be within 5 or 10 years

It could also be rename the FTR (former Turkish Republic) now known as
FEA (Far East Anatolia)


The winners most likely the Kurdish people! Good luck to them!
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Postby mehmet » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:07 pm

From the arguments i read here i concluded the eventual break up of Tourkia
The Anglo-Saxons will eventually divided it into pieces. May be within 5 or 10 years

It could also be rename the FTR (former Turkish Republic) now known as
FEA (Far East Anatolia)

The winners most likely the Kurdish people! Good luck to them!

Shoushoucos wrote;

''From the arguments i read here i concluded the eventual break up of Tourkia
The Anglo-Saxons will eventually divided it into pieces. May be within 5 or 10 years

It could also be rename the FTR (former Turkish Republic) now known as
FEA (Far East Anatolia)

The winners most likely the Kurdish people! Good luck to them!''

This is a fantasy and as stupid a dream as the Megali Idea or Pan-Turanism. You have to deal with the Turkey that exists or not at all. You need to read some more.
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Postby Ascot » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:24 pm

shoushoucos wrote:
mehmet wrote:If, and it's a big if, there is an independent Kurdish state in northern Iraq, why is this thought to lead to break up of Turkey? Kosovo isn't necessarily join with Albania because for the Kosovan's this would be against their interests, having had a different history they have different perspectives. Every nation, even Israel (eventually) will have to conclude that it is better to be at peace than at war with your neighbours, and the Kurds of northern Iraq will need to be at peace with Turkey and Iran. What do you think the price for that peace will be?



From the arguments i read here i concluded the eventual break up of Tourkia
The Anglo-Saxons will eventually divided it into pieces. May be within 5 or 10 years

It could also be rename the FTR (former Turkish Republic) now known as
FEA (Far East Anatolia)


The winners most likely the Kurdish people! Good luck to them!



Turkey is simply too big and the army is too strong.

The Americans and English can not tolerate any country that is strong and that could refuse there advances

It is only a matter of time when there attention will turn on reducing Turkey making it an easier to manage!

Divide and Rule

They will make 2-3 different governments (nations), they will armed them for security against each other (Armenia, Kurdistan, New Turkey).

That way it will be easier to deal with them when they demand facilities to invade your neighboring nation.
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:15 am

this thread is getting really hopeless...
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Postby zan » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:21 am

It started off hopeless
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Postby Piratis » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:58 am

this thread is getting really hopeless...

Of course for some only partitioning Cyprus with partition plans like Annan plan is "hopeful".

Turkey does have internal problems that could potentially lead to her brake up, and since they are acting in a hostile way against us we should definitely do what we can in order to intensify their problems.
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Postby Simon » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:15 am

Cypezokyli wrote:

[quote]it is one of the possibilities[/quote]

Thank you, this is all I was arguing.

Turkey should realise that advocating the break-up of Cyprus could backfire. :twisted:
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Re: Turkey should be dismantled for Peace

Postby Swashbuckler » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:26 am

The dumb leading the dumber.
Mickleham wrote:Turkey should be dismantled for peace

I believe the time will come when Turkey will have the same fate as Yugoslavia

ie. State Creation:

1. Armenian State - doh, there already is one.
2. Kurdish State - been to Istanbul or Izmir lately oh ignorant one?
3. Pondian State - for who exactly? Why dont you throw in Western Asia Minor and Istanbul as well? Ooops, forgot, you tried that in 1922 and where'd it get you?
4. Turkish State (smaller manageable Serbia like state) - kinda like Southern Republic of Cyprus then.

Territory carving:

Syrian to recover there own portion of territory now occupied by Turkey - Turkey to absorb Turkmen areas oif Iraq in return?
Bulgaria to recover the own portion of land now occupied by Turkey - Turkey to absorb areas of Turkish majority in Bulgaria in return (ethnic Turks make up over 20% of Bulgaria's population)
Greece to also recover there lost territory now occupied by Turkey. - Hee hee What territory did "Greece" loose to Turkey exactly? Careful, this is a question only someone with a basic knowledge of history can answer.
Apologise if i have left any other claimants of territory behind. - Turkey to absorb areas of Western Thrace where "muslim Greeks" live

This could really be a reality during our life time, especially that Turkeys sponsors are the " divide & Rule " countries like USA, UK, etc


Heh heh GC Fascist dreams...engendered as ever by the wilful disregard of fact.
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Postby MARIKKOU » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:05 pm

Simon wrote:Cypezokyli wrote:

it is one of the possibilities


Thank you, this is all I was arguing.

Turkey should realise that advocating the break-up of Cyprus could backfire. :twisted:



Before the break up of Cyprus, The Turkish Republic will be divided at least into 2 parts.

One part will be the new Kurdish State of 20 million Kurds

20 millions is what is left after the Turkish army have been killing indiscriminately so as to put down the Kurdish Patriots who are fighting Valiantly for freedom and Homeland!

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Postby MR-from-NG » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:37 pm

Before the break up of Cyprus, The Turkish Republic will be divided at least into 2 parts.

One part will be the new Kurdish State of 20 million Kurds

20 millions is what is left after the Turkish army have been killing indiscriminately so as to put down the Kurdish Patriots who are fighting Valiantly for freedom and Homeland!

marikkou


Yeah, there is also rumour that there is a new breed of pigs that can fly.
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