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[zan]

Standard Piratis answers that amount to nothing.

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Piratis

My demands are for democracy, human rights and an independent Cyprus without racist violations. My demand is exactly that respect should be shown from all Cypriots.

Very nice on paper Piratis and we wish the same for all in a united Cyprus but who will administer all this? don't forget their is a vast difference between Korean and Swiss style democracy. How can be certain that the majority will not do everything within their power yet just within the framework of law to get back (vengence) at the minority for the last 3500 years of intolerable living you say you have had to endure? What measures will you take?

[Kikapu]

trying to school turks on democracy is like trying to teach a dog to do math. many dont even know what it means. in fact, some think that turkey is a democratic nation

Could you please tell us, where did you learn "your" Democracy, and the last time you voted.???

[andri_cy]

Unless things have changed, voting is mandatory in Cyprus. If you don't go and vote the police can come looking for you and you better have a good excuse. When I first moved, a couple of years after that, there were elections and they DID go looking for me. MY mom had to tell them I live in the US. I think that is a good think. If you want democratic rights and want to be able to criticize the government you need to damn well fulfill your responsibilities and go vote. I believe that is what is wrong with the US. They do not make the people accountable. They give them a hell of a lot of rights but they do not outline their responsibilities for them. Well that, and the stupidity of the electoral college anyway.

[G.Man]

My demands are for democracy, human rights and an independent Cyprus without racist violations. My demand is exactly that respect should be shown from all Cypriots.
On the other hand you insist on illegal demands that have as an aim to take away from us part of our country and violate our human rights. You are the one who is showing no respect whatsoever.

I too would like to see the day without racist violations... we could start on this forum

[Kikapu]

Unless things have changed, voting is mandatory in Cyprus. If you don't go and vote the police can come looking for you and you better have a good excuse. When I first moved, a couple of years after that, there were elections and they DID go looking for me. MY mom had to tell them I live in the US. I think that is a good think. If you want democratic rights and want to be able to criticize the government you need to damn well fulfill your responsibilities and go vote. I believe that is what is wrong with the US. They do not make the people accountable. They give them a hell of a lot of rights but they do not outline their responsibilities for them. Well that, and the stupidity of the electoral college anyway.

The reason why 50% of US citizens do not vote, is because they do not believe, by voting it's going to change their lives one way or the other. So in essence, they do not believe Democracy works. Those who have the wealth has the power rule, and the little people ( the majority) are there to help the powerful get where they are going. There are only very few "ordinary person" in our Government today. Most are "rotten" rich, and getting richer. I'm not surprised half of America does not trust the Democratic System.

If someone doesn't want to vote, should also be their right. If you force someone to vote, surely you're violating his / her freedom of choice and civil rights. So I don't think I would agree with the Cypriot method of Democracy.

The Electoral College does play a important part in American politics as to make sure every State (Big or Small) counts during elections. Having said that, it's totally counter democratic. What can I say, world's greatest Democracy invented a method that is totally anti- Democratic.

[Mickleham]

Democracy is a Greek word.

This is why kikapu and others do not understand completely the meaning of the word.


Turkey and its agents never truly practice Democracy.

They are masters of depriving democracy to people, by force.

[Kikapu]

Democracy is a Greek word.

This is why kikapu and others do not understand completely the meaning of the word.


Turkey and its agents never truly practice Democracy.

They are masters of depriving democracy to people, by force.

Superior Idiot, thanks for putting me in charge of the rest of the world to represent them, because according to you, only Greeks understand what Democracy means. 30 Million Greeks V 6 Billion the rest of the world. I think I would choose to represent the rest of the world over 30 Million Greeks, when it comes to Democracy.

Oh, just one more thing Superior Idiot. What was that 7 years of Military rule " the Junta" in Greece was all about. Is that also part of the "Greek Democracy".??

[cypezokyli]

Unless things have changed, voting is mandatory in Cyprus. If you don't go and vote the police can come looking for you and you better have a good excuse. When I first moved, a couple of years after that, there were elections and they DID go looking for me. MY mom had to tell them I live in the US. I think that is a good think. If you want democratic rights and want to be able to criticize the government you need to damn well fulfill your responsibilities and go vote. I believe that is what is wrong with the US. They do not make the people accountable. They give them a hell of a lot of rights but they do not outline their responsibilities for them. Well that, and the stupidity of the electoral college anyway.

i dont know when was that, but at least the last 2 elections (if not more) NO person was persecuted in cyprus for not going to vote. the law surely exists, but proscuting people after the accession in the EU might cause problems. so our goverment conviniently closes its eyes - and i absolutely agree.

it is only some partymongers that insist to scare people that there will be concequnces if they dont vote.

[andri_cy]

Democracy means that you have lots of rights and a lot of responsibilities, one of which is to vote for your government. You have the right to not vote, but if you do not vote, then in my eyes you have no right to bitch and moan when the government screws up, because if you had voted and everyone who thinks that voting is an individual right(instead of a responsibility), voted then the outcome might have been different and the president everyone dislikes might have not been a president e.g. Bush. People always get blindsided and confused by the word Democracy. Democracy means you don't only have unlimited rights, but you also have duties. If you don't do your duty don't expect anyone else to do theirs either.