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[brother]

So if a tc at the moment applied to be the vice president of the ROC would he be allowed, would tc have voting rights, would they be able to form a political party?

Can anyone answer these truthfully or would it be a guess.

[erolz]

So if a tc at the moment applied to be the vice president of the ROC would he be allowed, would tc have voting rights, would they be able to form a political party?

Can anyone answer these truthfully or would it be a guess.

As I understand it and I may be wrong the situation is clear. Until there is a settlement the TC community in the RoC (such as it exists) can not excersie their rights as a community under the RoC consitution.

[brother]

I thought they were a democratic country in the E.U following the footsteps of human rights, it sounds like that human rights only apply when it suits them and democrasy.

Them blocking our right to vote and be part of ROC is blackmail, because turkey done a operation in cyprus to save us they are now punishing us by violating our rights.

I thought the ROC entered the E.U representing all cypriots and the whole island, but that is not true if we can not have our rights in the ROC, hence they then truely only represent the GC community and the 'we are the goverment of cyprus' is plain lies and a load of b******s.

[magikthrill]

The reason why TCs don't have rights anymore is because they chose to give them up and illegally form their own state. Now because they are living in intenational isolation and poverty maybe the RoC deems its not enough for them to just come back like that, unless the issue is resolved.

IMO, maybe the RoC should offer some benefits to TCs but I guess it only makes sense that you can't have elected TC officials in the RoC when the TCs have decided to illegally breakway. What is your opinion?

[brother]

My opinion is if you are not letting the tc have their rights then you do NOT represent the whole of cyprus and if you insist that you do then you are breaking every human rights law and democrasy is non-existant in the ROC.

But if you restored all the rights to TC that is the same as GC and over a period of time enough tc came to the ROC and established themselves became part of the goverment and the three tc ministers in place and the tc vice president in place and there was a say 10000 tc presence in the ROC then would this not strengthan your hand and prove to all tc in the north you are not the gc of past and that we can live togethar with no problems and that turkey has no reason to be in the north because the ROC is now a true democratic goverment represented by both communities.

What do you think of that.

[erolz]

What do you think of that.

Personally I think is acceptable for the RoC to 'suspend' the rights of the TC community (in the RoC) pending a solution, just as I think it is acceptable for Turkey to 'suspend' recognising the RoC (as the sole legitimate government for the whole of cyprus) until there is a solution.

[Othellos]

...would this not strengthan your hand and prove to all tc in the north you are not the gc of past and that we can live togethar with no problems and that turkey has no reason to be in the north because the ROC is now a true democratic goverment represented by both communities.

Are you suggesting that the TC community is genuinely interested about returning to the Republic of Cyprus? And are you also suggesting that once this happens then Turkey will immediately withdraw its troops from the occupied areas of the RoC?

O.

[metecyp]

Personally I think is acceptable for the RoC to 'suspend' the rights of the TC community (in the RoC) pending a solution, just as I think it is acceptable for Turkey to 'suspend' recognising the RoC (as the sole legitimate government for the whole of cyprus) until there is a solution.

I don't think that it's acceptable for the RoC to suspend any rights of the TC community. It would have been acceptable if they declared that the RoC is a GC republic and it doesn't represent the TCs. But they keep insisting that the RoC is the sole entity on the island and they represent the whole island in the EU on behalf of TCs. Therefore, they have no right to suspend the rights of the TC community.

[metecyp]

Are you suggesting that the TC community is genuinely interested about returning to the Republic of Cyprus? And are you also suggesting that once this happens then Turkey will immediately withdraw its troops from the occupied areas of the RoC?

I always believed that the RoC can be federalized and that can be a solution and many TCs might share this view. But I don't think that any TC is ready to go back to the RoC as it is today. It's not possible anyway. There're many issues to be solved, such as property issues, intervention rights, etc. and Turkey's withdrawal from the island will not magically solve these problems.

[brother]

I try to show you that you are breaking the law but you turn and rebuff me by giving the turkey stance.

I ASK AGAIN DO YOU REPRESENT THE WHOLE ISLAND?

IF YES THEN WILL YOU RESTORE THE TC RIGHTS IN THE ROC?

IF NOT ARE YOU AWARE YOU ARE BREAKING THE E.U LAWS OF DEMOCRASY AND HUMAN RIGHTS?

WHO IS BRAVE ENOUGH TO ANSWER TRUTHFULLY