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[Pyrpolizer]

perhaps because of its syntax flexibility ie. it doesn't matter how much you jumble the words of a sentence up or mispell the words, one can still understand it, also the lack of gender and the language's ability to describe 3 dimensional movement in spatial terms, such as a spiral or helix without having to wave one's arms about lends to its universal use,

As long as it uses Greek words yes it can describe even 3 dimensional movements in spatial terms. Fact is Greek and German are the only languages in the world that can express deeper meanings.

[rawk]

Pyrpolizer

I was just wondering how long it would take for you to pick up on that. You're are absolutely right!

Those Greek words describe 3 dimensional movements!

No hand waving movements there.

English pinching words again, also took note about the decorators spelling.

Rawk

Oh by the way

Think of a number between 1 and 50

The numbers have to be odd, both digits!

And the digits can't be the same: ie: - 33

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37?

Rawk

[Natty]

[andri_cy]

37?

Rawk

Not so much.

[G.Man]

Certainly not the best way to encourage TRNC to open its ports to GC traffic...

Who give a %$#@ about your farts?????

TURKEY has to open its ports and airports to the RoC. The ports in the occuppied areas are seized by the Turkish army and used illegally by the occupation regime. That is why NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD goes to these ports/air ports except from the occuppying Turkey...

Well think about this... the hypocrisy that allows the GC's to whine on about the situation yet still employ hundreds of TC workers who cross the border every morning because it saves them money...

A united cyprus would mean those workers would be paid the same as the GC workers..

An isolated "state" where the people cross the border to come and do their shopping at Orphanides every saturday...

So what is it to be? An isolated state, or a cheap workforce that contributes to the RoC eonomy?

[elko]

Rawk wrote:

Hi Elko

How's the light fitting? Small world, big island!

I must keep a long list of aliases to keep track of everybody!!
ismet

[Pyrpolizer]

OK Rawk,

Time for you to write something on the Cyprus problem as this section deals specifically with that. You are diverting everyones attention...

[Viewpoint]

These are just one off examples, dont worry you can still continue to wallow in your pit of self satisfaction that we are unable to even recieve post direct from abroad, or that you stop us playing even friendly matches with teams that have not even been heard off, or you deny and discriminate against us taking part in even a folk dancing festivals. Must make you feel real good. Well done...all these negative actions will continue to ensure we stay divided only sad thing is people like you cant and will never see it.

This is a lie! No TC team was ever prohibited from playing international games with other teams from those that were listed under the RoC Cyprus Football Federation. The same goes with other cultural events. No TC dancing group was ever prohibited from participating in international festivals in which the RoC was invited to participate. Tell me one case that this thing ever happened!

GET your kit off for the cause! That's the call going out to Turkish Cypriot footballers from the London-based human rights pressure group, Embargoed!, as part of its campaign to end the embargoes against North Cyprus.
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19 November 2005

The group is preparing a double-sided full colour poster to feature six players from London and six from North Cyprus, each stripping down to their "bare essentials" and posing with a banner declaring: "Balls to Embargoes!"
Embargoed! is working with both the Cyprus Turkish Football Association and the Turkish Football Federation (UK) to raise awareness of the current ban which prevents North Cyprus teams from playing even a friendly match against international opposition.
Auditions have been arranged for both London and Lefkoşa and the poster will be available from January.
Would-be North Cyprus "pinup guys" — Turkish Cypriots playing in the TRNC's football leagues — should turn up at the Levent College in Lefkoşa, complete with their football kit, between 7pm and 9pm on Wednesday, November 30. They must be available for a photo shoot on Tuesday, December 6 at the Jasmine Court Hotel, Girne.
Embargoed! is planning further action against the football embargoes in the weeks to come.
The ban on Turkish Cypriots and North Cyprus football teams dates back to 1984, in the aftermath of the formation on November 15, 1983, of the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus, when world football's governing body, Fifa, banned all matches — including friendlies and youth games — between Fifa-registered teams and those in North Cyprus.
An Embargoed! statement saidr "Any team flouting this ban would be fined. Prior to this, Turkish Cypriot teams were peirSnitted the right (!) by Fifa, on a match-by-match basis, to play 'friendlies' with other teams."
This year, in April, the Greek Cypriot-controlled Cyprus Football Association (CFA) thwarted plans by English team Huddersfield Town AFC to play a friendly match in North Cyprus.
In September 1998, Fifa fined German soccer team Bad Lippspinge $20,000 for playing against Turkish Cypriot team Çetinkaya. -
Embargoed! says the ban not only violates Turkish Cypriot human rights, but Fifa's own statutes:
** Fifa against discrimination, Article 3: "Discrimination of any kind against a country, private person or groups of people on account of ethnic origin, gender, language, religion, politics or any other reason is strictly prohibited and punishable by suspension or expulsion."
** Fifa objectives, Article 2: "To improve the game of football constantly and promote it globally in the light of its unifying, educational, cultural and humanitarian values, particularly through youth and development programmes"
The blanket ban on football matches between North Cyprus and international opposition has resulted in low pay, and poor conditions and opportunities.
Former Çetinkaya captain Ahmet Esenyel captured the low morale of Turkish Cypriot footballers: "The rest of the team will suffer like me for the rest of their career if there is no settlement ... I don't want the young generation to suffer like me. This situation is- so extraordinary. You don't see this anywhere in the world. One hundred metres from here [Nicosia] they [Greek Cypriots] can play and make good money."
Professional football in Cyprus started on September 23, 1934 when the CFA was established with eight founding members: three all-Greek Cypriot clubs, one all-Turkish Cypriot club and four mixed sides. The Turkish Cypriot side, Çetinkaya, won the championship in the league's inaugural season.
In 1948, the CFA became an affiliated member of Fifa as a British colonial football association. This was upgraded to full member status in 1960 when Cyprus gained independence. Embargoed! said: "Fifa's decision to only admit the Greek Cypriot controlled CFA is in direct contravention of the 1960 Cyprus Constitution, which set out the right of the two indigenous peoples of Cyprus to have their own sporting arrangements."
Turkish Cypriots formed their own Cyprus Turkish Football Association (CTFA) in 1955, after Greek Cypriots had prevented Çetinkaya and other Turkish Cypriot teams from playing their matches.
Although the CTFA had direct contact with Fifa between 1955 and 1984, it was never given full member status.
When the CFA was granted full admission in 1960, it was wholly staffed by Greek Cypriots.
** MORE information about Embargoed! is available online at www.embargoed.org, by telephone/fax at + 44 (0)20 8279 8561 or by e-mail via [email protected]

You can contact the CTFA for full details...... <==== Kifeas

[elko]

Anyway Elko after all this mess with Rawk's dialect and stuff you seem to have overlooked my question.
Why is RoC desperate?

The simple answer is that ROC is losing out at all fronts now. Now the Turkish Cypriots began to talk and explain their position. the Europeans are beginning to realize the Greek Cypriot lies.
With Green Line Regulations, ROC is not able any longer to hinder movement across the Green Line and are not allowed to prosecute any EU member for entering through Ercan or crossing over from the south into north to have their holidays. This trend is on the increase. This undermines the position of ROC pretending to represent the whole of Cyprus, plus undermines the tourism sector of the south.
Now that you are in EU, your manufacturing industry is grinding to a stop because you are not able to compete. the manufacturers have now become importers. So Cyprus Economy relies heavily on tourism and sale of houses to foreigners. Both of these sectors are showing signs of slipping towards the north.
Furthermore, there are strong signs of American involvement in Cyprus and the TC. side are hurriedly expanding Ercan yet again in readiness to make Ercan fully operational to outside carriers. No doubt Papadop is becoming more nervous.
ismet

[Pyrpolizer]

What a load of crap from elko to excuse his title!

The simple answer is that ROC is losing out at all fronts now.

Really? Tell me one front we are losing.

Now the Turkish Cypriots began to talk and explain their position. the Europeans are beginning to realize the Greek Cypriot lies.

Denktash was the cleverest man you could ever have. Now you have a dummy who even Tcs themselves consider a confused person who continously contradicts himself. Yet he speaks a lot that’s a fact. If you think there is any diplomat, any decision maker ANYWHERE in the world who does not know the truth about the Cyprus problem and I mean the whole truth, then you are mistaken. The Anan Plan was a trap in which we the GCs have fallen just because we trusted the UN. We needed some time to burry it. This time gave your side the opportunity to spread a lot of fancy crap. Decision makers just hear you and Turkey and simply smile. Remember Bush when Erdogan started referring to the Cyprob during his recent visit to the US? Did you read what the Turkish newspapers wrote? Well, if you don’t then he learn this. He started laughing.

This undermines the position of ROC pretending to represent the whole of Cyprus, plus undermines the tourism sector of the south.

On the comntrary it strengthens the position of the RoC as the only legal entity that controls what happens at this corner of EU.
My brother in law is one of the top top excecutives in tourism. He said no, the tourism has not been affected at all by the green line regulations nor it is expected to in the future. They even hired specialists from abroad to study this and inform them accordingly.

Now that you are in EU, your manufacturing industry is grinding to a stop because you are not able to compete. the manufacturers have now become importers.

You are living in outer space. The manufacturing industry came to a halt 20 years ago not because of Europe but because of Taiwan. And now because of China. This is a worldwide phenomenon. If you think the TCs have any chance to become manufacturers of shoes, dresses, or the any sort of light industry all you have to do is just try. Shoes come today from China at as low a price as $3 per pair. Socks at $1 per six pairs!

So Cyprus Economy relies heavily on tourism and sale of houses to foreigners. Both of these sectors are showing signs of slipping towards the north.

Tourism contributes only 25% of our GNP. Most money earned from tourism end up by the capitalists as investments outside of Cyprus. Yes tourism is a big sector of our economy but the biggest sector is services.

Furthermore, there are strong signs of American involvement in Cyprus and the TC. side are hurriedly expanding Ercan yet again in readiness to make Ercan fully operational to outside carriers.

Keep on dreaming. The American airliners are all private, and don’t give a shit for any airport other than the few huge European Airports and some in the Gulf. All they look for is their own profit. Btw what happened to that long promised flight of a jumbo from USA carrying some 400 American Tourists?

It is more that obvious that you are actually fantasizing. If that makes you happy, plug along man. Do it non stop.

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And presumably by imposing fines to those entering Cyprus from illegal airports and then crossing to the free areas the ROC is going to stop the glorious thrive of the economy at the occupied and stop the miserying of hers? I believe it’s you who is in desparate need for illussions.

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