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[elko]

There are conflicting arguments about this. Was the appeal on costs only or on the merits of the decision? It seems to be all very quiet. The inference??
ismet

[elko]

I think the silence is deafening. If the appeal was made against the merits and not just the costs, the Greek Cypriot propaganda machine would have been in full swing giving it the full coverage for maximum effect and put off the prospective buyers from north Cyprus.
Does anybody have any hard facts on this matter?
ismet

[elko]

I think the silence is deafening. If the appeal was made against the merits and not just the costs, the Greek Cypriot propaganda machine would have been in full swing giving it the full coverage for maximum effect and put off the prospective buyers from north Cyprus.
Does anybody have any hard facts on this matter?
ismet

[elko]

I think the silence is deafening. If the appeal was made against the merits and not just the costs, the Greek Cypriot propaganda machine would have been in full swing giving it the full coverage for maximum effect and put off the prospective buyers from north Cyprus.
Does anybody have any hard facts on this matter?
ismet

[zan]

OFFICIAL REUTERS NEWS REPORT: ORAMS Case

20:11 06Sep2006 UPDATE 1-British couple wins Cyprus property battle

(Recasts, adds reaction)
LONDON, Sept 6 (Reuters) - A British couple won a landmark court fight on Wednesday to keep a holiday villa they built in the north of Cyprus in a case significant to thousands of foreigners who bought property on the divided island.
Land claims are among the most contentious issues in Cyprus, a former British colony, which is split down ethnic lines since the north came under Turkish control in 1974.
David Orams and his wife Linda had been challenged by the dispossessed Greek Cypriot owner of the land who had fled to the south after the Turkish invasion.
Last year, a Greek Cypriot court ordered the Orams to demolish the villa in Lapithos, return the land to its previous owner Meletios Apostolides and pay him damages.
In November, the High Court in London ruled that the Greek Cypriot order was enforceable, but on Wednesday a High Court judge backed an appeal by the Orams against that judgment.
The Orams' lawyer, Cherie Booth, had told the High Court that the matter was of fundamental importance in respect of property dealings in Cyprus.
Thousands of Britons who bought homes in northern Cyprus are facing similar claims from the original landowners.
In comments to the Cyprus News Agency, Apostolides said the decision was "wrong" and that he would appeal.
"I hope we get a better result with the appeal," Apostolides, who was ordered by the court to pay the Orams' legal costs of 863,000 pounds, said. Although an appeal would not reverse the original court decision, at best, it could reduce the cost Mr Apostolides will have to pay. An appeal against this decision would also likely to cause even more controversy in a case the EU would prefer to keep closed. Many Greek Cypriot mediators accused Mr Apostolides of further promoting the awareness of a seperate Turkish Cypriot Republic state in the North of Cyprus, cementing the idea of a permanent division as a suitable Cyprus solution.
Orams, 61, and his 59-year-old wife said they had bought the land in compliance with the local land registry system.
The couple, who spent 160,000 pounds on their Cyprus property, said they had risked their main home in England in order to fight the enforcement of the Cypriot ruling.
"The judgment allows others in the same position to invest in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus without the threat of enforcement of judgments rendered in the Republic of Cyprus in the EU," a statement on behalf of the couple said.
An estimated 250,000 Greek and Turkish Cypriots, a quarter of Cyprus's population, were forced to flee their properties in conflicts dating from 1963.
((Reporting by Tim Castle, Editing by Astrid Zweynert; [email protected]; +44 207 542 7947))
Keywords: BRITAIN CYPRUS PROPERTY
Wednesday, 06 September 2006 20:11:47RTRS [nL06793901] {C}ENDS

[andri_cy]

Sorry Elko sometimes there are things going on in people's lives that come before typing up replies on a forum. You will have to excuse us all for not being here to answer to your questions as soon as you ask them

[elko]

Zan, Thank you very much for your quote of Reuters. It implies very clearly that the appeal is made only against the costs although it leaves the door open for speculation. I will try to ask one of the lawyers today who was a member of the defence team for Orams if he knows anything more about it.

Andri, I am terribly sorry for the identical treble message. I had trouble with my Internet and the screen kept freezing and I kept pressing the "send post" button. All three messages were sent within three minutes.
ismet

[Kifeas]

Elko, It is obvious that you are the one initiating a propaganda campaign -here and elsewhere, by distributing false information that Apostolides appeal was made only for the costs of the previous judgment and not on the findings, when you have been told already that this is not the case. You even quoted a line from a Reuters report that was made on the day of the judgment - a month ago, and which represents the opinion of the reporter (what does he know?) so that you back up your propaganda with “facts.”

[Viewpoint]

You know full well Kifeas that this case is pure propaganda paid for by the "RoC" to bring to a halt the building in the north. Well it has backfired as it was reported yesterday that interest has been reignited and sales are on the increase. This amount of effort what have better used up the GC administration to get their heads out of their arses and negotiate in good faith. It is reported today that the EU contact group has put the blame on Papadop for not wanting to find a solution and that the TCs are the ones that are being treated unfairly, she also goes onto say that France and Austria are using the GC run south to block Turkeys EU path. Well done Papadop the ex eoka Akritas plan author and Turk hater we don't expect anything less than this.

[Kifeas]

You know full well Kifeas that this case is pure propaganda paid for by the "RoC" to bring to a halt the building in the north. Well it has backfired as it was reported yesterday that interest has been reignited and sales are on the increase. This amount of effort what have better used up the GC administration to get their heads out of their arses and negotiate in good faith. It is reported today that the EU contact group has put the blame on Papadop for not wanting to find a solution and that the TCs are the ones that are being treated unfairly, she also goes onto say that France and Austria are using the GC run south to block Turkeys EU path. Well done Papadop the ex eoka Akritas plan author and Turk hater we don't expect anything less than this.

What is this "EU contact group?"