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The High-Level Contact Group for Relations with the Turkish-Cypriot Community in the northern part of the island, chaired by Françoise Grossetête MEP, Vice-Chairwoman of the EPP-ED Group in the European Parliament.

[Kifeas]

As for negotiating in good faith that you mentioned earlier, well as far as I know it is your side that drags its feet in the latest UN initiative after Ibrahim Gambari’s visit and the 8th of July agreement, and soon Michael Moller (UN special representative in Cyprus) will have no choice reporting this out to the Security Council. If you remember, there was an agreement on the 8th of July to do certain things, and certain things not to do, but Mr. Talat has violated this agreement on both grounds. Talat refuses to honor the agreement to discuss substantive issue at the level of technical committees, and he also dishonored on several occassions the closure of the agreement calling for the avoidance of inflammatory statements and “blame game” tactics, all contrary to the terms of the agreement that he signed with Gambari and Papadopoulos.

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If you are right I hope they do reveal that it is the TCs who are dragging thier feet and the reasons why as both sides appear to be playing the blame game. Will you also feel the same if it is declared by Moller that is in fact Papadop who blocks the path of negotiations? or will you again blindly give the usual barrage of excuses?

[Kifeas]

The High-Level Contact Group for Relations with the Turkish-Cypriot Community in the northern part of the island, chaired by Françoise Grossetête MEP, Vice-Chairwoman of the EPP-ED Group in the European Parliament.

Here we have the Eurling’s report adopted by the entire EU parliament by a huge majority, only a week ago, and you are asking us to take into consideration the comments of a self appointed contact group of the some MEP’s mainly coming out of the Green party, and which has no impact on the overall findings of the parliament. You must be joking!

[Kifeas]

If you are right I hope they do reveal that it is the TCs who are dragging thier feet and the reasons why as both sides appear to be playing the blame game. Will you also feel the same if it is declared by Moller that is in fact Papadop who blocks the path of negotiations? or will you again blindly give the usual barrage of excuses?

If he reports the opposite of what I said, then it will be an obvious lie, something I doubt he will do as it seems that Moller is an honest mediator, unlike someone else from Peru that messed up everything 3 years ago.

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Its a voice in the EU Parliament which is listened to and I know it will upset you as you now have to digest the fact that MEPs are speaking out against your squeeky clean(puke) leader and adminsitration, you automatically move to downgrade anything they have t say this is only to expected. Are all these MEPs wrong? so they all lie just to prove you wrong? I am 100% certain if they had slammed the TCs for doing soemthing incorrectly you would have raised their importance and significance in high lighting that we are to blame for the current situation. Typical.

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If you are right I hope they do reveal that it is the TCs who are dragging thier feet and the reasons why as both sides appear to be playing the blame game. Will you also feel the same if it is declared by Moller that is in fact Papadop who blocks the path of negotiations? or will you again blindly give the usual barrage of excuses?

If he reports the opposite of what I said, then it will be an obvious lie, something I doubt he will do as it seems that Moller is an honest mediator, unlike someone else from Peru that messed up everything 3 years ago.

Yet another person (the Peruvian) against the GCs, they do not seem to end for some reason, have you ever question the reason why?

Why will it be an obvious lie? will he also be against the GCs?

[Kifeas]

If you are right I hope they do reveal that it is the TCs who are dragging thier feet and the reasons why as both sides appear to be playing the blame game. Will you also feel the same if it is declared by Moller that is in fact Papadop who blocks the path of negotiations? or will you again blindly give the usual barrage of excuses?

If he reports the opposite of what I said, then it will be an obvious lie, something I doubt he will do as it seems that Moller is an honest mediator, unlike someone else from Peru that messed up everything 3 years ago.

Yet another person (the Peruvian) against the GCs, they do not seem to end for some reason, have you ever question the reason why?

Why will it be an obvious lie? will he also be against the GCs?

It will be an obvious lie because the facts are different!

Does Talat accept negotiations on substantive issues to start on the level of technical committees? No he doesn't, and in doing so he is providing all kinds of obstacles and barriers to avoid doing so. I know perhaps it is not his wish but that of Turkey, never the less he should either ignore them or come up and say so, instead of trying to fool around and try to blame Papadopoulos on this.

I give you an example! The property issue! If this issue (aspect) is not thoroughly discussed on the level of a technical committee, in which case each side will present their facts pertaining to the use of GC properties in the north, in which areas and as a percentage of the GC ownership in each area, as well as the TC ones in the south, and reach some provisional agreement and consensus on the facts and the way the issue should be handled, how on earth the two leaders will be able to go and agree on this important aspect of the problem? How can they make cognitive and conscious agreements on this aspect, without preparation and if they neither know the full facts, nor they agree on those facts?

Same goes with the issue of settlers, etc, etc.

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Kifeas

Does Talat accept negotiations on substantive issues to start on the level of technical committees? No he doesn't, and in doing so he is providing all kinds of obstacles and barriers to avoid doing so. I know perhaps it is not his wish but that of Turkey, never the less he should either ignore them or come up and say so, instead of trying to fool around and try to blame Papadopoulos on this.

What independent sources do you have to back up the above allegations?

How on earth did they decide and negotiate on these issues before? the only time we have seen committees filled with technocrats discuss theses were during the Annan plan negotiations at which stage at the information you are referring was disclosed. The UN and the GC have all the information which in the examples I personally saw was very detailed.[/quote]

[Kifeas]

Kifeas

Does Talat accept negotiations on substantive issues to start on the level of technical committees? No he doesn't, and in doing so he is providing all kinds of obstacles and barriers to avoid doing so. I know perhaps it is not his wish but that of Turkey, never the less he should either ignore them or come up and say so, instead of trying to fool around and try to blame Papadopoulos on this.

What independent sources do you have to back up the above allegations?

How on earth did they decide and negotiate on these issues before? the only time we have seen committees filled with technocrats discuss theses were during the Annan plan negotiations at which stage at the information you are referring was disclosed. The UN and the GC have all the information which in the examples I personally saw was very detailed.

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Vp, does Talat agree for substantive issues to be negotiated and possibly agreed on the level of technical committees, before ratified by the two leaders within a comprehensive settlement agreement, yes or no? If he does, then why on earth haven't they started meetings yet, 3 months after the initial agreement?