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EU & Turkey are both using Cyprus....

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Kikapu » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:09 pm

rolo wrote:kikapu

i dont know about the figures but USA and Britain will soon have to leave - correct on that. Then the usual power-vacuum thing, probable (if not already) civil war. The eventual break-up , but whats stopping the USA siding with the Kurds and splitting the oil?


As Long as the Americans stay in the region, more intensified the terrorism will be. If you were a business owner, at what point do you say, "hell with this, it is costing me too much to keep this place open", so you will take your loses, and move on to something else. Well, America has been losing their shirt from day one, so it will not be worth for them to stick around, just for the oil. Besides, how would that look. Finally, the truth would be seen, that they could not give a shit about Iraq, but would only stay for the oil.

No, if all goes well on November 7th, and the Republicans get their butts kicked in the Mid-Term elections, Bush will do his worse for the next 2 years, to make as much money as he can for his Big Corporation friends in Iraq, then, it will be all over. Turkey will step into Northern Iraq, before anyone else can. America will get it's share from the Turks, so the warm friendship between US and the Kurds will be over. Had Iraq did not turn out to be a disaster, it would have been a different story.
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Postby rolo » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:27 pm

Kikapu

your response is appreciated and makes sense.


It would be nice to see steps taken to ease tensions between the kurds and turks...............Turkey moving into Nortnern Iraq seems only to escalate the friction.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:38 pm

rolo wrote:Kikapu

your response is appreciated and makes sense.


It would be nice to see steps taken to ease tensions between the kurds and turks...............Turkey moving into Nortnern Iraq seems only to escalate the friction.


Has there not been friction between the Turks and the Kurds for the last 30+ years. Turkey has no intention losing Eastern part of Turkey to a Kurdish State, specially with money in their pockets from the Kirkuk oil fields, to be able to defend themselves, through purchasing more weapons...I could be wrong.!
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Postby rolo » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:30 pm

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i really know jack about the kurdish problems,

have you got any links to well ballanced sites on the problem.

I did try asking a kurd about the kurdish problem some time ago in London. - his answer confounded me.

His reply was "Untill I came to London I didn't even know there was a problem".

yeah i know ........mad.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:03 pm

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i really know jack about the kurdish problems,

have you got any links to well ballanced sites on the problem.

I did try asking a kurd about the kurdish problem some time ago in London. - his answer confounded me.

His reply was "Untill I came to London I didn't even know there was a problem".

yeah i know ........mad.


I do not know all the details regarding Turks _Kurds, except what I have read in the papers over the years. I was trying to find some links for you on Google and I came across this old news item. It goes along with what I think will happen, regarding the Kirkuk oil fields. I think you will find it interesing to read. If you Google Turks-Kurds, you should get a lot of info.

www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599, ... ml?cnn=yes
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Postby rolo » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:46 pm

rightly or wrongly figures released yesterday of deaths in Iraq were an unbelievable 700,000 since Sadam.

personally i find this figure unbelievable, even half of that is still unbelievable.

Question -with more deaths certainly on the way, and with our own experiences of intercommunal conflict does anyone here oppose the idea of separating the opposing parties, with a millitarised buffer zone between the two or should we just allow the killings to carry on?
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