Cyprus-Forum.com

[reportfromcyprus]

There are grouse.....

There aren't enough animals and birds in Cyprus to sustain the hunters.
The Laws are in place, they just aren't enforced.
There should be spot check and basic gun man ship taught to hunters before a licence is issued. My dad used to hunt in the UK. He would walk ahead of me with the gun cocked. It was only locked into place when the game was in sight.
The hunters should also be taught to pick up their cartridges. There are plastic casings all over the countryside.
Finally, hunters should only have ONE dog which should be licenced and microchipped. If the dog is dumped or shot and left by a hunter, the hunter can be fined when the dog is found once the ownership is traced through the chip.

THE END.

That's common sense, twinkle, but some people obviously completely ignore that, to the detriment of their own families.

Pantheman, since you're a hunter, why are there so many accidents that should never be happening? Why do people ignore safety in this way?

[pantheman]

RFC Wrote:

Pantheman, since you're a hunter, why are there so many accidents that should never be happening? Why do people ignore safety in this way?

Safety doesn't happen by accident, it has to be exercised. I am sorry i don't have any answer for the plain stupidity and lack of care for the other hunters. You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink it. is the saying. I, my son and others that i carefully choose to hunt with are always extremely careful. Because it only take one mistake that you cannot afford.

Remember this, its not guns that kill people, its people that kill people. Law enforcement can go along way here, but its that same old story sadly, the law is not enforced on our roads never mind the mountains. Notwithstanding this, something should be done.

As far as dogs go, i do not agree with the one man one dog rule. This is rediculous, although i agree with the licencing and microchipping.

You have to remember all the while we are commenting on this subject a young man has been injured (do not know if still alive) and his father must be in a terrible state. He didn't do it delibarately, god imagine how you would feel if you hurt your own child like that, dogs aside for the moment, we are talking about human life here.

Lets be a little more understanding, instead of slagging people off use your eneergy to encourage people to take more care, don't let kids out with guns on their own (fathers need shooting for this !!) and so on.

May the boy and his family recover the terrible ordeal and maybe they and others may learn from it.

Pantheman

Long live hunting,fishing and the outdoors.

[unique_earthling]

my dear pantheman, if as you say its not a pleasure to hunt why do it? why would someone hunt if its not to gain some pleasure from it, as there is a perfectly good supermarket up the road, where you can buy your rabbit etc.. and please lets not go into the culture thing, its the emotional intelligence thing, not culture.. we have hunters in england and i would say the same to them.. and as far as hunting dogs go, well thats something i could write a book on.. fried in the ovens on the back of trucks and dumped or shot if gun shy.

[pantheman]

UE,

there is no point in a discussion on this subject with you. Obviously, you are just one of those anti anything that doesn't suit me type of person.

I already gave my piece on the dogs, you can't just blame a whole category of people by the actions of a few. What fault is is of mine if someone mistreats his dog ? I wouldn't but thats me.

I rest my case.

Pantheman

Long Live hunting,fishing and the outdoors

[VEX8]

So what about Road Sign hunting then?

I mean, the poor things, they can't run away and hide, they just stand there transfixed in front of the mighty hunter with his shotgun pointed at them and wait for the blast...... Ohhh the inhumanity!!!!

I have lost count of the number of peppered and mortally wounded road signs i have seen on my travels but you don't here anyone jimping to the defence of these helpless targets do you???

Shame, shame on you all.

[dinos]

You have to remember all the while we are commenting on this subject a young man has been injured (do not know if still alive) and his father must be in a terrible state. He didn't do it delibarately, god imagine how you would feel if you hurt your own child like that, dogs aside for the moment, we are talking about human life here.

If this guy feels terribly about shooting his son - HE SHOULD! The kid learned a nasty lesson for his father's stupidity - that's life. Hopefully, he'll use it to smarten up a bit, as the apple never falls far from the tree.

Speaking for myself, I never called for a ban on hunting. Just for people to use their brains. But if there's not enough cranial matter in play to keep guns pointed down, even after passing a test, well, what can I say?

[reportfromcyprus]

So what about Road Sign hunting then?

I mean, the poor things, they can't run away and hide, they just stand there transfixed in front of the mighty hunter with his shotgun pointed at them and wait for the blast...... Ohhh the inhumanity!!!!

I have lost count of the number of peppered and mortally wounded road signs i have seen on my travels but you don't here anyone jimping to the defence of these helpless targets do you???

Shame, shame on you all.

uh oh, we have a satirist in our midst

[VEX8]

Am not. I'm a devout Athiest and proud of it.

[reportfromcyprus]

UE,

there is no point in a discussion on this subject with you. Obviously, you are just one of those anti anything that doesn't suit me type of person.

I already gave my piece on the dogs, you can't just blame a whole category of people by the actions of a few. What fault is is of mine if someone mistreats his dog ? I wouldn't but thats me.

I rest my case.

Pantheman

Long Live hunting,fishing and the outdoors

I understand what you're sayin, but I'm not sure I agree, because in this particular case, the actions of the few have a direct impact on the family and society in general. Their behaviour isn't just limited to the closed circle of hunters.

See my point?

[pantheman]

RFC,

I take your point as i too have a family and worry about these things. However, in life things need to be in proportion, extremeties like bans does really help. As an example. In the UK handguns were banned. This was as a direct result of a couple of idiots namely the hungerford and (incident in scotland sorry name escapes me), both these people had weapons that the police had messed up on and issued certificates. In banning the hand guns from legitimate ownership, gun crime has risen by 80%+ (home office stats). So, this tells you that a ban is not always the best way forward.

Like i said education and law enforcement will go along way to ensure everyone can do the things they like without all the problems associated.

As for the signs issue, well silly comments like this helps no one in a serious arguement. Just treat it as suburban graffitti. again these idiots need dealing with.

Pantheman

Long live hunting,fishing and the great outdoors