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Postby dinos » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:21 pm

reportfromcyprus wrote:The ironic thing is seeing a brochure for hunting insurance in a bank one day.

I suppose that if there's no vaccine for stupidity, at least the insurance companies can make money off them.

Still, I think these things can be prevented with a bit of education - a good programme with hunting experts explaining best practices.


I think you raise a good point, RFC. Every year you hear of people hurting themselves hunting. I guess that's to be expected when you put a bunch of people with guns wearing camo in the same spot, shooting wildly at anything that moves.

The common sense is to point the gun at the ground while you're walking. If people need that level of training, that's pretty sad.

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Postby unique_earthling » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:23 pm

if you have to kill for pleasure, then what does that tell you about the people who want to blow a defenseless animals brains out.. i hate hunting...

"A Hunter's Poem"- A hunter shot at a flock of geese that flew within his reach. Two were stopped in their rapid flight and fell on the sandy beach. The male bird lay at the water's edge and just before he died He faintly called to his wounded mate and she dragged herself to his side. She bent her head and crooned to him in a way distressed and wild Caressing her one and only mate as a mother would a child. Then covering him with her broken wing and gasping with failing breath She laid her head against his breast a feeble honk...then death. This story is true though crudely told I was the man in this case. I stood knee-deep in snow and cold and the hot tears burned my face. I buried the birds in the sand where they lay wrapped in my hunting coat. And I threw my gun and belt in the bay when I crossed in the open boat. Hunters will call me a right poor sport and scoff at the thing I did. But that day something broke in my heart And shoot again? God forbid! ­ Lemuel T. Ward
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Postby Sotos » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:28 pm

Either they should ban hunting or such accidents will happen. It is inevitable.
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Postby reportfromcyprus » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:30 pm

dinos wrote:
reportfromcyprus wrote:The ironic thing is seeing a brochure for hunting insurance in a bank one day.

I suppose that if there's no vaccine for stupidity, at least the insurance companies can make money off them.

Still, I think these things can be prevented with a bit of education - a good programme with hunting experts explaining best practices.


I think you raise a good point, RFC. Every year you hear of people hurting themselves hunting. I guess that's to be expected when you put a bunch of people with guns wearing camo in the same spot, shooting wildly at anything that moves.

The common sense is to point the gun at the ground while you're walking. If people need that level of training, that's pretty sad.

Hope you're well,
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Thanks, dinos, I'm fine, hope you are too.

What's distressing is that it's kids that get hurt. And they learn the bad habits of the fathers. Maybe Sotos is right that it should just be banned. What would happen if it were? Would there be a protest of some kind?
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Postby reportfromcyprus » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:35 pm

unique_earthling wrote:if you have to kill for pleasure, then what does that tell you about the people who want to blow a defenseless animals brains out.. i hate hunting...

"A Hunter's Poem"- A hunter shot at a flock of geese that flew within his reach. Two were stopped in their rapid flight and fell on the sandy beach. The male bird lay at the water's edge and just before he died He faintly called to his wounded mate and she dragged herself to his side. She bent her head and crooned to him in a way distressed and wild Caressing her one and only mate as a mother would a child. Then covering him with her broken wing and gasping with failing breath She laid her head against his breast a feeble honk...then death. This story is true though crudely told I was the man in this case. I stood knee-deep in snow and cold and the hot tears burned my face. I buried the birds in the sand where they lay wrapped in my hunting coat. And I threw my gun and belt in the bay when I crossed in the open boat. Hunters will call me a right poor sport and scoff at the thing I did. But that day something broke in my heart And shoot again? God forbid! ­ Lemuel T. Ward


Now imagine that's the child that just got shot by his own father, unique.

The animals are in danger, so are the humans :(
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Postby unique_earthling » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:41 pm

give a fool a pen he can write himself into the next generation, give him a gun and he can obliterate his next generation..
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Postby dinos » Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:35 am

unique_earthling wrote:if you have to kill for pleasure, then what does that tell you about the people who want to blow a defenseless animals brains out.. i hate hunting...


If people are going to eat what they kill, I have no problem with it. As a matter of fact, I think everyone that eats meat should kill their own food at least once a year. Helps you appreciate the sacrifices others make for us, and keeps our skin from getting too thin.

I agree, though, that hunting for the hell of it isn't a good thing. That's why there's skeet shooting.

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Postby GorillaGal » Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:41 am

well said dinos!
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Postby pantheman » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:23 am

Wow, now hod on just right there you guys,

First of all, to answer some of the rubbish thats is being spoutted out.

Hunting rabbits, grouse, whats rubbish. This is just typical of the antis who do not understand that go round spreading shit like this. Rabbits and grouse for instance don't exist in the wild in cyprus. Hares yes, partridge yes.

Secondly, i agree whole heartedly with the safety issue in cyprus, people are unsafe,but you can't just punish everyone for some peoples stupidity. I,m not sure if safety courses will help in cyprus, but at least it will start to educate the youngs ones. Actually, to obtain a licence you now need to take an exam, i understand it covers things like safe gun handling, species recognition, environmental aspects and so on. So, the country in moving in the same direction.

Then, that brings me round to say that in cyprus everything shot is eaten. Its not killed for pleasure. Again typical of the anti fraternity if i don't do neither should you. What you need to understand also is that the revenue raised for licences is also spent on environmental protection, the process creats jobs (game wardens, shop owners) and it goes on.

I've had the argument in the UK, i'm just sick to the teeth of boring old farts who have nothing better to do than jump on a bandwagon and start crying ban it, ban it. Its a typical anti characterstic. OK, there was an accident, accidents happen all the time, cars, bikes, aeroplanes. So your answer to is ban it.

Hunting in cyprus is part of the cypriot way of life, improve it yes, but please spare me the ban it cos i don't do it sob story.

I am a hunter, the more people like you go on the more it make me want to hunt. I have a right whether you like it or not. I hunt in cyprus, in the UK (yes game season has started, can't wait to go hunting) and if i could else where.

And finaally, what really pisses me off is even idiots from outside cyprus that are calling to a ban in cyprus. After all i could say that whilst the americans are killing innocent iraqis for fun, why not just do away with all the americans that way it just stops. Yes, i know i'm talking bollocks now, but thats how you guys are sounding by making comments such as ban it from afar.

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Postby twinkle » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:50 am

There are grouse.....

There aren't enough animals and birds in Cyprus to sustain the hunters.
The Laws are in place, they just aren't enforced.
There should be spot check and basic gun man ship taught to hunters before a licence is issued. My dad used to hunt in the UK. He would walk ahead of me with the gun cocked. It was only locked into place when the game was in sight.
The hunters should also be taught to pick up their cartridges. There are plastic casings all over the countryside.
Finally, hunters should only have ONE dog which should be licenced and microchipped. If the dog is dumped or shot and left by a hunter, the hunter can be fined when the dog is found once the ownership is traced through the chip.

THE END.
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