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[Viewpoint]

Do you really know how we ended divided?

Yes, the north was invaded in 1974, and is NOT recognised by any foreign national goverment in the world, just like east and west Germany!!, to me no different, an invasion is still an invasion, no matter how others choose to dress it up to suit their own motivations, the sooner Cyprus is all under one goverment the better

Ho yes appears you have a real grip on the situation, try reading some of http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/Table%20 ... ntents.htm and educate yourself just to ensure you have not missed anything.

[steveash]

Viewpoint, you would not happen to live in North Cyprus by any chance would you?

[Viewpoint]

yes steveash I live in the sunny Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

[steveash]

Ahhh that answers my question then and now understand your point of view, oh and from what i have seen, the south is just as sunny as the north, and yes i did go for the day to north cyprus, and was frankly DISGUSTED by that flag thats on the side of the hills, im sorry m8, but if reunification does happen (and i for one hope it does) then it will be for the better for all cyprus, but please remember, north cyprus is NOT recognised by the rest of the world, no matter what your beliefs are, it was an invasion, pure and simple, and after looking at the state of the north and serious under funding and support it gets, my heart weeps for those in the south, because what has happened is nothing short of criminal

You may not agree with my opinion, that is your right, however in your heart you cannot in all honesy say what happened in 1974 was morally right

[elko]

Steveash,
Just a simple question, do you have any idea what happened to Turkish Cypriots between 1963 and 1974? Did "invasion" just happen out of the blue?
ismet

[steveash]

Steveash,
Just a simple question, do you have any idea what happened to Turkish Cypriots between 1963 and 1974? Did "invasion" just happen out of the blue?
ismet

Irrespective of what happened in 1974, an invasion is no different to a playground bully, violence is NEVER the way to solve a problem, it always causes more in the long run, the fallout is still happening to this day

[Piratis]

Just a simple question, do you have any idea what happened to Turkish Cypriots between 1963 and 1974?

Elko, what happened to Turkish Cypriots was exactly what happened to Greek Cypriots. Both sides had about the same amount of casualties so why the one sided remark? And by the way, the conflict was between 1963 and 1968. 1974 was 6 years after those events, and Turkish Cypriots were used just as an excuse by Turkey to invade and occupy Cyprus.

Hitler did the same thing in Czechoslovakia, when he invaded and occupied that country with the excuse of protecting the German minority there. You need to distinguish between a reason and an excuse.

Today the fact is that Turkey is illegally occupying 1/3rd of Cyprus, and this illegality has to stop.
If you want to look into history to find excuses for this illegality, then please see history as a whole, and not just tiny selectively chosen slices of history that you believe can serve the Turkish propaganda and allow Turkey to commit even more crimes against Greek Cypriots (as they have done for the most part of our history).


However I would suggest to stop with the excuses and concentrate on how the illegalities and human rights violations can stop so all Cypriots can finally enjoy their human rights in a modern, democratic united EU country.

[Viewpoint]

Ahhh that answers my question then and now understand your point of view, oh and from what i have seen, the south is just as sunny as the north, and yes i did go for the day to north cyprus, and was frankly DISGUSTED by that flag thats on the side of the hills, im sorry m8, but if reunification does happen (and i for one hope it does) then it will be for the better for all cyprus, but please remember, north cyprus is NOT recognised by the rest of the world, no matter what your beliefs are, it was an invasion, pure and simple, and after looking at the state of the north and serious under funding and support it gets, my heart weeps for those in the south, because what has happened is nothing short of criminal

You may not agree with my opinion, that is your right, however in your heart you cannot in all honesy say what happened in 1974 was morally right

Your mind is made up steveash, no amount of information will help you see the truths behind the division.

You may be disgusted by the north thats your opinion and we respect that but to us its home where we are safe and not discriminated or dominated.

We are not against reunification and have even vote yes to the only comprehensive solution plan prepared by the UN and rubber stamped by many the International community. What we are against is reunification based on GC demands alone where the country will be turned into a GC state with TCs as just another minority.

We may be unrecognized but it is us that count when you are trying to agree reunificaiton. If not then go agree a solution with them if you can and then try to impose it, if that was the case you would have forced it upon us a long time ago.

It is because of the inhumane isolation of the TCs in the north and the lack of Internaational aid that we have not been able to develop to our full potential. But this is changing just keep watching not only that flag you hate so much but the TRNC progress over the coming years. We will not hang around waiting for GCs to become sincere and genuine about finding a solution.

You are right I do not agree with your opinion as you appear ill informed and very one sided in your views.

[elko]

Steveash,
Just a simple question, do you have any idea what happened to Turkish Cypriots between 1963 and 1974? Did "invasion" just happen out of the blue?
ismet

Irrespective of what happened in 1974, an invasion is no different to a playground bully, violence is NEVER the way to solve a problem, it always causes more in the long run, the fallout is still happening to this day

Good luck to you with your blinkers on. You might as well keep your eyes shut because that flag that annoys you may stay there for ever. Your kind of attitude of "do not want to hear anything" will not solve anything. Good luck to you my friend.
ismet

[elko]

Piratis,
We went over all that before and the reply of Viewpoint above to Stevas also answers you.
To put it in a nutshell, forced marriages do not work specially after violence in the family. Give it a chance to live side by side and helping each other if one day we want to live together again. At the moment your are trying to bash the Turkish Cypriots on the head and make them surrender but it will never happen.
ismet