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Postby elko » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:32 pm

Support for EU membership in Turkey has fallen off sharply. I believe that Turkey will abandon this aim completely within a year or so. As it stands at the moment, EU officials and politicians keep reminding Turkey that at the end of the day, even if the accession talks are concluded successfully, "The capacity to absorb" Turkey into EU will be a major factor i.e. may be refused entry after all.

No country in its right mind can continue negotiations when so much foul play and bad intentions is so obvious. Indeed I believe that Turkey stands to gain if she abandons her aspirations to join EU and also terminates her Customs Union Agreement with EU. Under this agreement the import-export arrangements between Turkey and 3rd countries is controlled by EU, an organization in which Turkey has no say. This is really a pathetic situation and Turkey should put an end to it.

The immediate short term results may be bad for Turkey in the sense that the value of Turkish Lira will plummet but it should recover within a year.
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Postby cypezokyli » Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:39 pm

and where can turkey turn to ?
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Postby orokliniservices » Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:00 pm

I've just returned from the "dark side" and the downtown development is being supported by the EU. There are signs posted all over Kyrenia stating this. Is this a sign that they are well on their way to getting in?
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Postby elko » Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:55 pm

cypezokyli wrote:
and where can turkey turn to ?

Is it really necessary to belong to a block? There are lots of countries that do get bye alone. Besides there are lots of alternatives but that should not be the reason.

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I've just returned from the "dark side" and the downtown development is being supported by the EU. There are signs posted all over Kyrenia stating this. Is this a sign that they are well on their way to getting in?


It is your choice to call TRNC "the dark side". Please yourself but we find it very bright over here. My only personal complaint is the numbers of Casinos, Betting Shops and Night Clubs. I understand that they are doing good business by getting big support from the south. Are you one of them by any chance? :oops:
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Postby cypezokyli » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:22 pm

elko wrote:cypezokyli wrote:
and where can turkey turn to ?

Is it really necessary to belong to a block? There are lots of countries that do get bye alone. Besides there are lots of alternatives but that should not be the reason.



could you name some of those countries ?

and do you think that is going to be in the interest of turkey ?
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Postby orokliniservices » Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:43 am

No i am not one of them, i barely spent 10 lira. I found it disgusting how the locals did everything in their power to rip you off, like i'm that stupid and am gonna fall for your tricks, I DON"T THINK SO!! I did not feel safe, walking downtown Kyrenia at night was a frightening event. I was walking down street with my partner, and still got whistled at and stared at like i was a piece of meat. I couldn't wait to cross back over to our side.. i'll never return again.
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Postby Alexis » Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:50 pm

I've just returned from the "dark side" and the downtown development is being supported by the EU. There are signs posted all over Kyrenia stating this. Is this a sign that they are well on their way to getting in?


I believe this is being done with some of the money dedicated to the Turkish Cypriot Community by the EU. The same goes for the 'Nicosia Master Plan', which encompasses the whole of Nicosia within the city walls including the half within the 'occupied areas'. I believe this has been a good scheme since it has at least bought architects and professionals from the two communities together with a common goal. I don't think these schemes have any bearing on Turkey's entry to the EU, however.
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Postby twinkle » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:26 pm

cypezokyli wrote:and where can turkey turn to ?


May I introduce the 51st state of the USA.....
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Postby elko » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:41 pm

ismet wrote;
cypezokyli wrote:
and where can turkey turn to ?


Is it really necessary to belong to a block? There are lots of countries that do get bye alone. Besides there are lots of alternatives but that should not be the reason.


could you name some of those countries ?

and do you think that is going to be in the interest of turkey ?


I am not so good with nested quote but the gist is there. My emphasis was on "Is it really necessary to belong to a block? " So there is no need to elaborate on a thousand and one possibilities. In democracies, therre is no end to possibilities.
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Postby elko » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:49 pm

orokliniservices wrote:
No i am not one of them, i barely spent 10 lira. I found it disgusting how the locals did everything in their power to rip you off, like i'm that stupid and am gonna fall for your tricks, I DON"T THINK SO!! I did not feel safe, walking downtown Kyrenia at night was a frightening event. I was walking down street with my partner, and still got whistled at and stared at like i was a piece of meat. I couldn't wait to cross back over to our side.. i'll never return again.


I think it was too much drink or something else. Admittedly I live in Famagusta and therefore do not have first hand knowledge of Kyrenia at late hours but I am a member of several Bulletin Boards where expats write and mostly live in Kyrenia and have not come across a single complaint like this. So, if you will excuse me, I think you made it all up. Let others from south Cyprus who visited Kyrenia late at night tell their stories.
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