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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:49 pm

Viewpoint wrote: Thank god our dream which was in response to yours and replaced yours has given us 32 years of peaaceful exisitence. The 14 years previous were a taste of your dream which we do not ever want again.


Why do you always divert the discussion when you are proven wrong??? :razz:
Your initial argument was we were trying for 46 years to build a united Cyprus. Even what you just said, trashes your own previous argument.

wrote: Thats his viewpoint and he has a right to it like I have a right to mine.


The viewpoints of a tiny fraction of TCs like youself, don’t interest us.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:31 pm

Pyrpolizer you are playing on words now this is a very well known trait that GCs use to avoid the real question, which was since having the right to rule ourselves we have had a total of 46 years of trying to live on this island either together united or divided as we are doing. Over these 46 years we have discussed argued killed each other and even had external intervention to find a formula that would bring peace. In all these years we have on numerous occassion discussed reunificaiton and building a united Cyprus which if you recall at the last attempt you resoundingly rejected. So my stubborn and allergic neighbour all the attemots to date have failed. The only success we can see that works is division, if it wasnt then we would have united many years ago. Feel free to prove me wrong if you can :wink:

The viewpoints of a tiny fraction of TCs like youself, don’t interest us.


Bury your head in the sand thats also a well know act of those those do not want to address the real issues.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote: The only success we can see that works is division, if it wasnt then we would have united many years ago. Feel free to prove me wrong if you can


The mere fact that you don’t like the xisting situation which actually is division and you are here talking for a solution proves you wrong.

As simple as that my allergic and stubborn brother. :wink: ---- >

Viewpoint wrote: So my stubborn and allergic neighbour …..
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:17 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: The only success we can see that works is division, if it wasnt then we would have united many years ago. Feel free to prove me wrong if you can


The mere fact that you don’t like the xisting situation which actually is division and you are here talking for a solution proves you wrong.

As simple as that my allergic and stubborn brother. :wink: ---- >

Viewpoint wrote: So my stubborn and allergic neighbour …..


I am here to test my own viewpoint to see if I am wrong but unfortunately to date I have not read anything that would make me change my opinion, in fact GCs on this forum have consistently proved that division is the only solution that matches our vision and compromise. We lack a real desire to live together as one nation and therefore we will never be able to solve our own problems. This is the harsh reality we all have to face one day sooner or later.

"Brother" seems to have slipped your mind I am a Turkish Cypriot your allergy will play up again.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:20 pm

You've been testing it since "Joined: 20 Feb 2005"
You tested it as much as "Posts: 2360" times

And you are still here? :razz:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:25 pm

Yes why not? so have many other posters. We are all continually testing the climate.

Why are you here then?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:26 pm

Viewpoint wrote: "Brother" seems to have slipped your mind I am a Turkish Cypriot your allergy will play up again.


I still love you my allergic and stubborn brother.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:19 pm

We lack a real desire to live together as one nation and therefore we will never be able to solve our own problems.


We know very well that you have no desire to live together with us in one nation. Unfortunately your extremist view of partitioning our island is still alive and well.

However you have no right to do that since you have no right to illegally occupy part of Republic of Cyprus, perform ethnic cleansing, change the names of our villages and try to Turkify part of our country with 3500 years of Greek Cypriot history.

Therefore as I always say it is a matter of balance of power. If it was just up to you then our island would never be unified since your dream is partition. However you will not always have the option of forcing this illegality.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:13 am

Piratis wrote:
We lack a real desire to live together as one nation and therefore we will never be able to solve our own problems.


We know very well that you have no desire to live together with us in one nation. Unfortunately your extremist view of partitioning our island is still alive and well.

However you have no right to do that since you have no right to illegally occupy part of Republic of Cyprus, perform ethnic cleansing, change the names of our villages and try to Turkify part of our country with 3500 years of Greek Cypriot history.

Therefore as I always say it is a matter of balance of power. If it was just up to you then our island would never be unified since your dream is partition. However you will not always have the option of forcing this illegality.


Piratis really in 500 years time no one will give a shit about the division at the rate we are going the partition will become a norm, this will be the outcome, ho I nearly forgot unless the power balance chnages in your favor of course lets not forget that.
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Postby Kit » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:09 pm

The term "Greek influence" rather hits the nail on the head, for that is all it is.

As I understand it the "Greek Cypriots" are no more Greek than the "Turkish Cypriots". There are just Cypriots who speak either Greek or Turkish, and have different faiths and cultures.

Their DNA is the same for all practical purposes and quite distinct from either the mainland Greeks or Turks.

For perfectly valid historical reasons there were many Greek speaking Cypriots arising out of the Byzantine period and during the later Ottoman period they were allowed to speak their own language and worship as they wished (the Roman Church being evicted).

One could argue that had the Ottomans not been so reasonable we would not have a problem today. They could quite easily have suppressed both the language and the religion but chose to do otherwise.
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