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[zan]

LOL.

Somehow I don't think it will be that simple this time.

What the good old US of A wants it gets

[growuptcs]

Zan, what if they ask from Turkey what Turkey demands from Cyprus? An American state in Turkey. Your like a little kid waiting for the bully to steal land for you. Your pathetic, and all that think in that kind of unbalanced way is what scares GC's about you Turks. It's hard to live with them kind of mindsets that ask for a peacedeal in a discriminating way.

[Simon]

Zan, you make me laugh.

Unless Turkey open its airports and ports to the RoC, then all talks will stop in December; and the good old US of A can't do jack about it. Remember, the EU is not just the UK, it is France and Germany that also pull the strings, and they have stood up to the US once before in the past, remember.....

[zan]

We shall all see in good time.

[growuptcs]

We shall see my feathered little friend.

[zan]

Didn't I just say that ! Doh!!!!!

[Viewpoint]

You really are excited over this aren't you Zan, posting it in two different threads.

By the way, you forgot this part:

Greece sets the pace

Greece has come a long way since it joined the European Union 21 years ago. This makes it a fitting role model for the ten new members as it runs the EU presidency for the first half of 2003. Pity about Iraq.

When the government of Costas Simitis took over the presidency on January 1st, Greece had just ended a year as the fastest-growing economy in the EU. The coming year promises a replay. In 2001 – to general surprise – Greece earned its way into the euro zone. It is as a self-confident core member that the Greek government will put on the style in Athens on April 16th when present and new EU members formally sign the enlargement deal negotiated at the Copenhagen summit last month.

AND

In other words, Greece is now as mainstream as you can get. If the newcomers can be in a similar position in the next ten or so years, the problems of enlargement will be largely over. This is asking a lot. For one thing, with the exception of Cyprus and Slovenia, their national GDPs range between one third and 55 percent of the EU average. Secondly, and more difficult to handle, is the mindset they bring to the Union. Having freed themselves from Soviet colonialism only a dozen years ago, most are reluctant to transfer part of this new-won sovereignty to Brussels. This learning process will be a painful one (as we are seeing over Iraq). But we are moving ahead of the current Greek presidency.

Aren't Greece a net taker from the EU kitty, in other words they are sucking the blood of contributing countries to fund their economy growth which has had its fair share of scandals of bribery, wasn't the last one about a road consortium that stole millions and million of EU money?? all is not what it seems

[Viewpoint]

Zan, what if they ask from Turkey what Turkey demands from Cyprus? An American state in Turkey. Your like a little kid waiting for the bully to steal land for you. Your pathetic, and all that think in that kind of unbalanced way is what scares GC's about you Turks. It's hard to live with them kind of mindsets that ask for a peacedeal in a discriminating way.

growup did America and Turkey share the same history and sign an international agreement to share Turkey under specific conditions? Don't think so somehow. You really need to grow up and see the forest from the trees. The Cyprus issue is unique and cannot be solved by forcing your majority upon us we will never accept this without safety valves to ensure our safety and survival, get that into your thick skull.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis you continue to chirp a lot but produce nothing with real substance you seem to advocate to the policy that TCs should return to the 1960s agreements but in the same breath you say these agreements gave us to many privileges. We all are aware of your previous leaders attempts to water down these agreements and where that took us. How do expect Tcs to go back to such an agreement which you yourselves did not want back then and yet so dearly hold onto and promote today.

If you really want reunification you have to see beyond the current situation and be sensitive towards TCs fears and concerns as I have to towards the GCs. For example lets try this approach you tell me what you feel is my concern and how you would resolve it. Ill start, I understand your concerns over the Turkish army and would support the island being demilitarized (over a shorter period than stated in the Annan plan), so that we have a risk free situation where one side cannot attack the other, or one side does not have the military advantage over the other. Your turn......

still waiting Piratis

[zan]

VP, I bet the answer has the number 3,500 in it. He may even throw in a 500 here and there.